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Leaving a private rental property

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  • Premier_2
    Premier_2 Posts: 15,141 Forumite
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    roseymoo wrote: »
    all correspondence has been via email. I did have a chap in to look at the carpets before i left he said there cream and cheap they will never look perfect.

    There was never in inventory done on the property. The wear on the carpet is only in the living room and dinning room where people have walked.

    They won't look perfect because they are 2 years old (at least) and have worn. The wear, if typical for that type of carpet, would be fair wear & tear.

    However, if cleaning them removes marks or brightens them up, even if they still show signs of wear, then that is dirt and that is not wear and tear.

    They should be as clean as they were when the property was first let to you.
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  • sooz
    sooz Posts: 4,560 Forumite
    roseymoo wrote: »
    Now i have been informed by the land lady that they will be billing me for the carpets to be cleaned and for profesional decorators. ( also the marks on the carpets are just on the high traffic areas ) I dont know what to do i dont think i should have to pay it but i dont want to have to go to court. Basicly what i am asking is do they have the right to make me pay?
    roseymoo wrote: »
    There was never in inventory done on the property.

    No inventory= no deductions.

    Tell her to shove her bill....:D

    Or...

    Write back to your LL, & deny damaging the carpets & walls. State, as you have here, that you resided in the property for two years, & cleaned & returned it in the same state it was let to you, subject to normal wear & tear. Remind them that without an inventory, they cannot prove the state of the property before you moved in, & therefore you are not responsible for their costs incurred in choosing to redecorate their property.
  • Premier_2
    Premier_2 Posts: 15,141 Forumite
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    sooz wrote: »
    No inventory= no deductions.

    ....
    If only it were that simple...;)
    "Now to trolling as a concept. .... Personally, I've always found it a little sad that people choose to spend such a large proportion of their lives in this way but they do, and we have to deal with it." - MSE Forum Manager 6th July 2010
  • sooz
    sooz Posts: 4,560 Forumite
    Premier wrote: »
    If only it were that simple...;)

    We've already had this discussion on another thread.

    The ex LL has no deposit, & the tenant has moved out. She can bill her ex-tenant all she wants, but the OP doesn't have to pay.

    She can try to issue a small claims action, but given that she has no agreed proof of the state of the property when the OP moved in, what exactly do you think her chances of winning the case are?
  • Premier_2
    Premier_2 Posts: 15,141 Forumite
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    sooz wrote: »
    We've already had this discussion on another thread.

    The ex LL has no deposit, & the tenant has moved out. She can bill her ex-tenant all she wants, but the OP doesn't have to pay.

    She can try to issue a small claims action, but given that she has no agreed proof of the state of the property when the OP moved in, what exactly do you think her chances of winning the case are?
    Whilst an inventory/statement of condition is usually good enough to win a case, a court will accept other evidence.

    It depends what evidence the LL can supply which, based on the balance of probablities, shows that the tenant should be responsible for the claimed damage.
    "Now to trolling as a concept. .... Personally, I've always found it a little sad that people choose to spend such a large proportion of their lives in this way but they do, and we have to deal with it." - MSE Forum Manager 6th July 2010
  • sooz
    sooz Posts: 4,560 Forumite
    Right, and you think that a LL who is so disorganised that she did not conduct an inventory & did not take a deposit will have enough proof of the conditon of a property two years ago to convince a court on the balance of probabilites?

    I very much doubt it.
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