TONITE on C4 @ 9pm - The Price of Property

adr0ck

!!!!!!? wrote: »

What a load of rubbish!

Somebody remind me, what was the programme trying to say?

The presenter just went around London a bit and remarked how lucky some people were to have bought decades back. I lost interest after about 30mins so maybe it improved after that.....

no it was total pants

ad44downey

lynzpower wrote: »

I agree. It was very telling that C4 had done this, with no reference whatsoever to the role of property !!!!!! and C4s role within that.

They should have had kirsty and Phil present the program. Now that would have been ironic!

WTF?_2

carolt wrote: »

Can't believe the effing spellchecker has a problem with f eckless!!!!

I think that the 'Father Ted effect' has popularised the 'f eck' word as a substitute for another 4 letter word and for some reason TPTB have decided that it merits inclusion in the swear filter.

Using another 'Father Ted'-ism, I have to say that's a pretty fupping stupid decision on the part of the censors......

Sapphire

For my part, I found the programme interesting and intelligently presented (for a change), particularly as a piece of social history. It is amazing how people's circumstances – even of many of those who are considered poor in our society – have changed since the 1950s and '60s. Collectively, we are so much more wealthy today than we have ever been, and than much of the world is now, even though in our 'must have' society we don't regard this to be the case.

I also think it's sad that people regard property as an investment. Up until comparatively recently people had far more modest expectations when it came to their abodes, and didn't consider mounting some 'property ladder' as vital to their lives – as this programme clearly showed. And it's sad that so much has been lost through greed – awful that properties like those stables have been trashed and filled with the most disgusting decor, and that the most unpleasant buildings such as the ones shown in Hampstead have replaced elegant, well-built British homes. No more Bohemian London in areas that were once interesting in this respect…

I hope prices fall to the extent where people will borrow no more than three times their salary, and that strict controls will be put in place to prevent the banking excesses of the past few years, which are endangering are whole country.

I'm looking forward to the next three parts of this series.

mr.broderick

jamescredmond wrote: »

so what did you think then, lynz.

OK: only the 1st of 4 but here's my take.

the personal view has:

the lucidity of !!!!!!/dopester

the prescience of carolt,

the humanitarianism of ndgirl/me,

the whimsical jocularity of brodders,

the engaging incredulity of d/dad/ dan. (same bloke, allegedly),

the brutal frankness of brit1234,

the supressed bitterness of pickles,

the pleasant understatement of pastures.

personally, I think this b/cast should be required viewing for all 6th form kids, who have been bored to extinction by parents crowing about HPI over the past 5yrs.

I would include a couple of others in that bracket....

lostinrates

Sapphire wrote: »

, and that the most unpleasant buildings such as the ones shown in Hampstead have replaced elegant, well-built British homes. .

Are you talking about the places shown in The Bishop's Avenue? When I lived in Hampstead and wasn't working for the fist time in my life and felt scared and vulnerable and worried about my depleting savings account I sometimes used to walk down to Bishops avenue and remind myself that money really isn't everything. Its sad though, that one or two of the lovely Modern originals still stands, looking modest and even neglected. That ordinary people are made jump through hoops for roof lights or humble roof gardens just a few streets away while monstrosities like Toprak Mansion are built shows that planning has been very confused.

That said, it was a free and always entertaining pasttime.

carolt

I grew up not far away and as far as I recall, Bishops Avenue was always notorious for expensive bad taste. We had a girl at school who lived in house just off the Bishops Avenue, and she used to try and 'buy' friends by giving them gifts, presumably the same as her parents did to her. I went to her house - it was huge, very expensive in a tasteless kind of way.

So I don't actually think anything's changed in that area - they've just multiplied the price tag by 10-13. I remember rumours that houses there were worth...wait for it......3 million pounds!

lostinrates

http://images.google.com/images?hl=en&safe=off&rls=com.microsoft:*:IE-SearchBox&rlz=1I7SNYK&resnum=0&q=Toprak%20Mansion&um=1&ie=UTF-8&sa=N&tab=wi

Strangley enough it looks much better in photos, but the aforementioned Toprak Mansion sold for £50 million in January (doesn't £3 mill sound a bargain now). In real life I can't say how much worse this looks!

PasturesNew

jamescredmond wrote: »

so what did you think then, lynz.

OK: only the 1st of 4 but here's my take.
the personal view has:
the lucidity of !!!!!!/dopester
the prescience of carolt,
the humanitarianism of ndgirl/me,
the whimsical jocularity of brodders,
the engaging incredulity of d/dad/ dan. (same bloke, allegedly),
the brutal frankness of brit1234,
the supressed bitterness of pickles,
the pleasant understatement of pastures.
personally, I think this b/cast should be required viewing for all 6th form kids, who have been bored to extinction by parents crowing about HPI over the past 5yrs.

Awww... I got a mention. Always nice to see.

But I can't work out if that's a good thing or a bad thing. A pleasant understatement, which means "she wouldn't dare upset anybody by actually saying what she really means!". But this is because I have ventured onto the Discussion Forum, Money Savers' Arms and a couple of other boards and they scare the fook out of me... so I won't say anything controversial at all, or they'll be down on me like a ton of bricks.

jamescredmond

PasturesNew wrote: »

Awww... I got a mention. Always nice to see.

But I can't work out if that's a good thing or a bad thing. A pleasant understatement, which means "she wouldn't dare upset anybody by actually saying what she really means!". But this is because I have ventured onto the Discussion Forum, Money Savers' Arms and a couple of other boards and they scare the fook out of me... so I won't say anything controversial at all, or they'll be down on me like a ton of bricks.

it's a good thing. the board needs balance.

know what you mean about some of the other boards, though.

I thought I was thick, until I looked at some of the 'dawn of man' posts on the travel board........