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Lone Parent claiming disablity premium on income support

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  • cazjenki wrote: »
    New to this board so hello everyone.
    Today I received a letter about making a new claim due to changes that MAY happen in parliment this year. The goverment propose to stop lone parents claiming income support after their youngest reaches 12, . . .:confused:

    The Employment and Support Allowance to be introduced in October is for people making a new claim for incapacity benefit and for people making a new claim for income support on grounds of disability.

    Why do you want to make a new claim? Have they asked you to?
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  • dmg24
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    The Employment and Support Allowance to be introduced in October is for people making a new claim for incapacity benefit and for people making a new claim for income support on grounds of disability.

    Why do you want to make a new claim? Have they asked you to?

    You may want to read the OP's post fully before responding. :rolleyes:

    cazjenki was asking about what would happen when their child turns 12 (or when the new lone parent provisions come in, whichever is the later of the two), and they would therefore no longer be eligible for IS for reason of being a lone parent.
    Gone ... or have I?
  • stazi
    stazi Posts: 1,295 Forumite
    my_two_cents

    To correct your post-

    The Employment and Support Allowance to be introduced in October replaces non linking new claims to both incapacity benefit and income support on grounds of incapacity- not disability.


    I understand that JCP have sent a mailshot to all Lone Parents who claim IS with a DP, advising them of the changes to IS and kids over a certain age, about ESA, and about possibly claiming IB now.
  • dmg24 wrote: »
    You may want to read the OP's post fully before responding. :rolleyes:

    cazjenki was asking about what would happen when their child turns 12 (or when the new lone parent provisions come in, whichever is the later of the two), and they would therefore no longer be eligible for IS for reason of being a lone parent.

    No need to roll your eyes at me, I understood what Cazjenki, alongside with Wazza and Bluetint wrote. I was only trying to alleviate their fear and reassure them not to panic. THAT'S ALL. They do not have to do anything, because they are not only eligible for IS due to being a lone parent but also by reason of their incapacity.

    The ESA is only applicable to new claimants wishing to go on IB and IS on incapacity/disability grounds, as from October 2008.

    From November 2008, subject to parliamentary approval, lone parents with their youngest child over the age of 12 have to make a claim for JSA, if they were previously claiming IS solely on the basis of being a lone parent. Once again, this does not apply to the three ladies.
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  • wazza
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    No need to roll your eyes at me, I understood what Cazjenki, alongside with Wazza and Bluetint wrote. ................


    ...... Once again, this does not apply to the three ladies.

    I am a guy :mad: :D
    Problem with having access to internet is that i get asked by many to solve their problems :( Well at least i learn something on the way :D
  • stazi wrote: »
    my_two_cents

    To correct your post-

    The Employment and Support Allowance to be introduced in October replaces non linking new claims to both incapacity benefit and income support on grounds of incapacity- not disability.

    You say tomayto, I say tomaato :cool: :D
    stazi wrote: »

    I understand that JCP have sent a mailshot to all Lone Parents who claim IS with a DP, advising them of the changes to IS and kids over a certain age, about ESA, and about possibly claiming IB now.

    ESA is only applicable to new claimants applying from October 2008, so it would be wrong for them to be sending this out to existing claimants to force them to claim IB. Oh well :rolleyes:, i guess it's because IS is costlier to maintain than IB, and the government would rather prefer to cause mass hysteria and force everyone to unwittingly claim for ESA, which has no disability premium :cool:.

    The welfare reform concerning lone parent that is commencing in November 2008, would not apply to lone parents who are foster carers, carers, are disabled, or have disabled children.
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  • wazza wrote: »
    I am a guy :mad: :D

    Ouch 657.gif, I am very sowwy. Please forgive me 069.gif
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  • stazi
    stazi Posts: 1,295 Forumite
    my_two_cents

    To correct your post-again

    They do not have to do anything, because they are not only eligible for IS due to being a lone parent but also by reason of their incapacity.



    They DO have to do something now-they need to consider claiming IB on or before 26/10/08- that's why the mailshot was sent to explain this.

    They are NOT claiming IS by reason of their incapacity-they are claiming as Lone Parents who also get a DP (because of DLA), but who do not have a current IB claim.

    No IB claim=no incapacity.
  • healy
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    stazi wrote: »
    my_two_cents

    To correct your post-again

    They do not have to do anything, because they are not only eligible for IS due to being a lone parent but also by reason of their incapacity.



    They DO have to do something now-they need to consider claiming IB on or before 26/10/08- that's why the mailshot was sent to explain this.

    They are NOT claiming IS by reason of their incapacity-they are claiming as Lone Parents who also get a DP (because of DLA), but who do not have a current IB claim.

    No IB claim=no incapacity.

    Extra thanks for that stazi, I really was starting to get confused by this but now you have made it clear.
  • stazi wrote: »
    my_two_cents

    To correct your post-again

    They DO have to do something now-they need to consider claiming IB on or before 26/10/08- that's why the mailshot was sent to explain this. . .

    I reiterate, they do not have to do anything. Those currently on IB and IS whose youngest child is over the age of 12 have to claim Jobseekers Allowance from November 2008.

    If your youngest child is over 12 and you also qualify for IS via the incapacity route, then you would be allowed to remain on it. You would also be allowed to remain on IB or IS if you are a foster parent, or you have a disabled child whom you claim benefits for or you are a carer.

    Wazza's child is 6 years old, so he has no need to do anything.

    Bluetint is claiming IS and DLA which means she has an element of disability, so she also has no need to do anything.

    Cazjenki does not have to but could make a claim or asked to be passported onto IS on grounds of incapacity rather than as a lone parent due to her Rheumatoid Arthritis and Depression. She could also consider putting in a claim for DLA, if she isn't already getting this.
    stazi wrote: »
    They are NOT claiming IS by reason of their incapacity-They are claiming as Lone Parent who also get a DP(because of DLA), but who do not have a current IB claim.

    Even if you qualify for IS on all four/five grounds, you can only be paid on one ground, but you can choose under what ground you wish to be paid.

    Severe Disability Premium and Enhanced Disability Premium is paid on DLA grounds, not DP.
    stazi wrote: »
    No IB claim=no incapacity

    But of course, not everyone that applies for IB gets it due to the contribution issue. Everyone who applies for IS has to fill in an IB form too and once they find out that they have not paid enough contribution in the previous two tax years, they are paid IS instead.
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