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I can't stand the doom crew anymore

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  • fc123
    fc123 Posts: 6,573 Forumite
    No, instead of posting here 15 hours/day, I turned that energy to my own websites. So I've been posting a load of old tosh on those, er, I mean, I've been creating quality content for my future website visitors... :)
    What are you writing about? I miss reading your posts...
  • moggylover wrote: »
    I'm beginning to get a bit confused here! Carol, just which planet were you on in the 1990's! I was a bit confused when you talked about good sized family houses (not in London) at around £50K - now you think £40K in Devon at that time was a lot - you would have paid that in THIS area, Ceredigion, in the 90's!:confused:

    My own last three bedroom house in Slough (not huge, and not much garden, and not in a particularly exclusive area) was worth (at its' lowest drop - around £85K - one or two similar ones in poor condition struggled to make the £80K. Pre 89/90 it had risen to around £99/100K. I originally paid £40K for it in mid 1985.

    Just WHERE did you see houses that low in price during the 90's?

    Just as a matter of interest - if you bought so easily during the 90's - why do you not still have that property, and why are you so keen on price drops?

    I ask becuase I actually have two properties (both on the market) at the moment, my own and the one I inherited from my mother. I am not bothered by the drop in market prices as they are both paid for - and as the kind of properties I would now want to move up to are also coming down in price it will be swings and roundabouts for me. I DO, however, believe that the prices needed to reduce and rationalise for the benefit of first time buyers, and ESPECIALLY the lower paid ones.

    However, I feel the glee is unpleasant as not every buyer in the last 10 years was a greedy BTL! Ordinary people who just wanted a home, just one home, also managed it - and if they face difficulties because of the price drops then I feel great sympathy for them.

    I also find it difficult to understand why in one post you are knocking the BTL crowd - and in another finding "private rental" perfectly acceptable and the best some people are worthy of! I mean me: when I complain about BTLs it is because I believe that not one single person should be allowed to own more than one home until every working person that wants to own one can and does - so dissaproving of BTL is on a moral basis. However, if you do not believe this on such a basis, and do not believe that making huge profits from exploiting other peoples needs (not wants - they are acceptable profit sources;) ) then I cannot see that these people have done anything other than try to be "successful" as seen by the criteria of a Capitalist Society?:confused:

    I'm afraid that with regard to your earlier post I could never agree with your last point. If the right to buy is there for one single person in this Country - then it should exist for every single person! That some would not wish to - is fine, but the equal opportunity should be there - and sub-prime does not necessarily mean people that will not pay their mortgage - looking back my own was probably sub-prime (in fact all three of the ones I took out probably were :o;) on 3 different homes) - but I paid my mortgage, and went without to make sure it was paid. Many poorly paid, or sub-prime borrowers also do - and just as many "middle-class" or "graduate" mortgagees do not! Two of my closest friends lost their home during the 89/90 crash - both had degrees - both had too much "stuff" on tick, and both were totally useless at balancing their accounts, or paying their bills! When mortgage rates rose dramatically to 15% - they were sunk, despite parents who tried to bale them out and by late 1989 they were being repossessed as they refused to sell a year earlier when I advised them it was their only hope of straightening their finances out!:rolleyes:


    Eagerly awaiting Carolt's response........................................:T

    She's gawn orfelly quiet!:p :D
  • fc123
    fc123 Posts: 6,573 Forumite
    fc123 wrote: »
    What are you writing about? I miss reading your posts...
    PM me when they are finished ?? Otherwise all the aliases will look too.
  • PasturesNew
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    fc123 wrote: »
    What are you writing about? I miss reading your posts...
    I'll be back here full-time once I get my new sites making some money. It's just my lazy lifestyle of watching daytime TV and posting here wasn't sustainable while I was relying on the income from one site. So I've started another 18, but writing the content for 18 new websites, from scratch etc is proving a bit of a bigger task than I thought. I end up reading/researching 10 hours/day, then fiddling with templates etc for about 3 hours and writing content here and there for 2.

    I should concentrate on just one of them really .... but it's hard to pick which one.

    I'm not going anywhere... I just need to stop being so reliant on one source of income :)

    I'm writing about .. er, nothing much to be honest. Working from home and freelancing seem to be the main subjects at the moment. And tools, plugins, code, seo and internet rubbish. Just documenting things. Thinking about churning out a couple of books, trying things out. Just the usual stuff that you get sucked into once you start putting a site together for zero cost and want all the bells and whistles, but without the talent to achieve it efficiently.

    Like today, set up a cron job for an aggregator on my server ... changed my mind about what I was doing, wanted to remove the cron job and for the life of me couldn't find how. Time ... gets ... sucked ... awaaay.
  • We know what you've been doing............

    Watching back to back recordings of jeremy kyle :rotfl:

    Welcome back!
  • fc123
    fc123 Posts: 6,573 Forumite





    Like today, set up a cron job for an aggregator on my server ... changed my mind about what I was doing, wanted to remove the cron job and for the life of me couldn't find how. Time ... gets ... sucked ... awaaay.
    ??????????
    Good to hear everything is well. I only get on here late at night for an hour or so. Not as entertaining now ;) but seeing as in my day to day life, reading Heat or Vogue is essential research.....a bit of economic or political chat is just what I need to wind down.

    Intenet Land...and understanding it has transformed my life in the past 2 weeks as I am now sellling in it.......unbelievable sales figures.
  • PasturesNew
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    fc123 wrote: »
    ??????????
    Good to hear everything is well. I only get on here late at night for an hour or so. Not as entertaining now ;) but seeing as in my day to day life, reading Heat or Vogue is essential research.....a bit of economic or political chat is just what I need to wind down.

    Intenet Land...and understanding it has transformed my life in the past 2 weeks as I am now sellling in it.......unbelievable sales figures.
    I can honestly say I've never seen/read Heat nor Vogue. One's too trashy and one's too posh.

    Glad to hear things are going well!
  • PasturesNew
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    We know what you've been doing............

    Watching back to back recordings of jeremy kyle :rotfl:

    Welcome back!
    LOL/JK. I did catch a couple of those this week.

    Something needs to be done about the hopeless scum that drag their sorry harris' through his studio.

    Really, most of them can't even enunciate coherently. And there are some right kn0bs that think they're super-cool and clever!
  • dopester
    dopester Posts: 4,890 Forumite
    LOL/JK. I did catch a couple of those this week.

    Something needs to be done about the hopeless scum that drag their sorry harris' through his studio.

    Really, most of them can't even enunciate coherently. And there are some right kn0bs that think they're super-cool and clever!

    The fact there is an entertainment show devoted to such poor social behaviour (underclass behaviour?) reveals part of the distorted reality we've got in this country.

    How Learndirect came to sponsor the show is another reality-trip decision (before they decided to pull out after that Judge ripped the show apart.)

    It does my head in that Kyle pontificates from above when he himself is earning his substantial crust from nothing that value-producing to society.

    I cheered that Judge's summary last year.
    These self-righteous individuals should be in the dock with you. They pretend there is some kind of virtue in putting out a show like this," said Judge Berg.
  • fc123 wrote: »
    seeing as in my day to day life, reading Heat or Vogue is essential research.....a bit of economic or political chat is just what I need to wind down. .

    You have my deepest sympathy. I've never actually read Heat, but the cover makes it look mind-rotting.
    ...much enquiry having been made concerning a gentleman, who had quitted a company where Johnson was, and no information being obtained; at last Johnson observed, that 'he did not care to speak ill of any man behind his back, but he believed the gentleman was an attorney'.
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