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Spain - 35% writedowns suggest carnage ahead

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  • If you are of state pension age, or on Incapacity Benefit from the UK, your healthcare is free in Spain.
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  • treliac
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    If you are of state pension age, or on Incapacity Benefit from the UK, your healthcare is free in Spain.

    By which you mean medical care? But not so with the long term care that may be required in old age.
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    Most of them are not entitled to Spanish State Benefits
    How come all-comers from the EU can grab our benefits, if brits abroad can't get Spanish benefits?
  • treliac
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    How come all-comers from the EU can grab our benefits, if brits abroad can't get Spanish benefits?

    It's our unique, giving and loving British way of doing things PN.
  • The general rule is that, once an EU person is resident, he / she is entitled to the same benefits as a native citizen. So it all depends on what the local rules on benefits are.
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  • treliac wrote: »
    By which you mean medical care? But not so with the long term care that may be required in old age.

    No, there is not much in the way of Residential Homes and the like, even for Spainiards, but they have their large extended families whereas the expats usually have no-one.
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  • How come all-comers from the EU can grab our benefits, if brits abroad can't get Spanish benefits?

    Because entitlement to British benefits depends upon residency, whereas Spanish ones depend upon paying into the system.
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  • treliac
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    Spanish ones depend upon paying into the system.

    I admit to seeing the good sense in this.
  • Yeah, these are really tough times here in Spain at the moment. We see it all the time. The property market has totally collapsed and the Euro rate is putting off those that were thinking about buying here.

    All the corruption hasn't helped either. Tough times but they're about to get even tougher.

    In terms of healthcare, a lot of people tell us that the issue they have more than anything else is the language. When people get really ill they tend to return to the UK just so that they can communicate with the doctors and properly understand what's going on.

    The hospitals here also expect the families to help out a lot. If you don't have family in Spain then it can be very lonely and difficult.

    It terms of cost of living here....well it is far from cheap. We live on the southern coast and it's very expensive. In fact, when we went back to the UK a few weeks back we found it much cheaper in the supermarkets and the shops.

    Spain has changed a lot of recent years and it's not all been good.
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  • treliac wrote: »
    I admit to seeing the good sense in this.

    Yes, so do I.

    And because entitlement to British Benefits depends upon residency, returning expats can be refused them, and NHS care, if they cannot prove they have come back to stay, (for example they may be staying with relatives and not yet have their own address) even though they may have paid into the system for forty years, whereas someone who comes from abroad and has never paid anything, but can show a rental contract or deeds to a house, is entitled.

    Not fair imho, prefer the Spanish system.
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