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Advice Needed, pls - house humming and vibrating 3 years now - What is it?

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  • bryanb
    bryanb Posts: 5,030 Forumite
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    Do you know what the land under the house consists of? Rock can carry sound for long distances, whereas earth/sand/ gravel would not so much. I have heard the sound you describe around electricity pylons/ transformers. Is the railway nearby electrified?
    This is an open forum, anyone can post and I just did !
  • Hitch
    Hitch Posts: 215 Forumite
    The hum, have you or the farm(?) or any neighbours got any substantial outside lights? Some HID types can make a fair bit of noise.
    That doesnt explain the vibrations though
    :undecided

    Certain electrical items especially ones with transformers or magnets make a bit of noise, not just mains powered. Have you taken batteries out of everything aswell as switch off the main power?

    Any cables outside, electric, phone, that could be whipping in the breeze causing the noise and even some slight vibration? The wires get tensioned up, and can act like a guitar string...same goes for transformers on poles outside..sound travels best through solids the denser the better, so if your outside you may not hear it. If the hum goes through the cables and into your house, the structure of your house could be acting like a soundbox on an instrument, dramatically increasing the volume.
  • CFC wrote: »
    1) Can other people hear it, and does it seem loud to them? As another poster said, get your neighbours in when it is loudest and ask them what they think.
    2) Have you tried recording it yourself? Tape recorders are NOT expensive.
    3) Did it suddenly start, or has it been happening since you moved into the house?
    4) If you have cracks appearing in the house, you need to get a builder or surveyor or even your insurance company to come and assess the damage.

    Thank you for replying

    My aunt said she could hear when she came around and so could the water guy but other people find it hard to hear or don't believe us. But to be fair no one has been at night when there are no background noises to cover it up. Since the water stopcock has been changed the noise is louder and I think more audible to others.

    Yes, I think we might have to ask them to come round and see if they can hear it and what they think. Again, it just sounds a bit mad - can you come round listen to our noises?

    My mom has tried recording it but it just sounds like white noise on the tape. I have read bit about the Hum and the efforts made to record such a low frequency sound/vibration. There was a guy in New Zealand according to a newspaper article on the web who had managed to develop some record equipment that had picked up the earths Hum. I did think, with our equipment, that we probably weren't going to be very successful with recording it ourselves. The environmental health guys that also recorded the sound said it didn't constitute a noise according to their criteria.

    We have been in the house over 8 years and the noise appeared about 3 years ago. We thought it happened after we had the boiler replaced. The water pressure was a lot higher but we have been told by two separate people that it is not the water boiler. Noise still happens when the electricity and water are turned off.

    We have wondered if a building surveyor or a structural engineer would be able to assist?
    Kind Regards
    FHM
  • oilit wrote: »
    you havent got a pump under the floor boards or anything like that - possibly to remove water/sewerage - most likely if you live in an area where your house is liable to flooding or where the waste has to be pumped to the sewer?

    If you can feel it - it must be something vibrating against the structure or in the ground - yet you say you cant hear it outside. Think of thing sthat are on all the time - boiler? water pumps for heating/hot water?

    or, have you upset the neighbours - maybe they are doing it to you to try to persuade you to move !!!!!

    Thank you for your reply.

    We don't think there is a pump under the floor boards but when the water guys were trying to work out what the noise was they did say something about waste water and it gushing into something underground but then decided it couldn't be that?

    We can still hear it when the power is off.

    Kind Regards
    FHM
  • jfdi wrote: »

    Thanks for replying.

    Very interesting link - particularly the fact that he can get the environmental health officer to go with him when it is about the earths Hum and unlikely that the EHO can help whereas ours says it doesn't constitute a noise according to their criteria.

    It is also interesting about the cell/mobile towers. I know one was going to be put up in our local area (two streets away) and it was a couple of years ago. At the time there was a TetraWatch group and they provided a link which showed where the Tetra Masts were and one was going to be put across the road (making two towers with a few streets but one of them being Tetra). I had forgotten all about this. I have just found the website which seems to have changed in the last few years http://www.tetrawatch.net/links/links.php?id=find and it looks as if it has been decided that Tetra Mast locations are top secret and cannot be shown. Tetra Masts are what the police use for their radio communications (there are lots of references on the web years ago when I was researching Tetra Masts, to police getting cancer and there were links being made to the use of the police radios). I think Tetra or the technology/waves behind it is banned in some countries because they don't believe it is safe!

    Still I am not convinced that the Tetra Mast could be causing our house to vibrate and it would be a very big coincidence having 3 people in the house 'sensitive' to the Mast?

    I don't know how we could test it - it is unlikely that they would turn the Mast off since it is now top secret and no one is suppose to know it is there.

    It is one to think about though especially since I am think someone said that within a few years there would always be a mast within x miles of you no matter where you are in the UK!

    Kind Regards
    FHM
  • jfdi wrote: »

    Thanks for replying.

    Very interesting article.

    The only symptoms we have are lack of sleep and the side affects of that. Also, we don't hear it outside. We really understand how they feel about dreading the night time though.

    I am very interested in the reference to the gas supply. It is the one thing that we have not looked at -simply because it is hard to believe that gas could cause a hum/vibration. Any gas experts (the domestic supply kind!) out there that could say if it is possible for gas to create a humming/vibrating sound? (I can just imagine some of the replies you could get to that question...)

    Kind Regards
    FHM
  • I've registered just to reply to your problem :D

    We used to live on an estate in Portishead. We had a very similar issue to you, only it wasn't continuous, but would come and go. We could hear and feel this low drone/hum/rumble over the TV, and at night it sounded like an express train that just wouldn't stop.

    It took us a couple of years to pin it down, and only because we had exhausted all other avenues. But to cut a long story short, our noise/vibration was down to ships manouvering in Bristol (Avonmouth) docks!

    The very low frequency of their engines and propellors was travelling through the rock and soil and actually vibrating the house. Our next door neighbours didn't seem to get it, but we did, and it was explained that it was to do with the frequency and our houses position relative to the wavelength of the noise :confused: But we knew it WAS the docks because whilst it was happening I contacted the Docks Police to ask if there was a large ship moving (did this several times) and each time it was confirmed that a ship was docking/manouvering.

    Once we knew what it was, it seemed to bother us less. You'd kind of just thing "oh, another boat moving about" and go back to sleep. Weird how the mind works, as before we knew, we would lay awake with the noise and causes just going round and round in your head.

    Hope you get it solved, but sometimes it can be the most obscure and bizarre thing that is the cause.
  • basill
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    Do you have an electricity substation nearby? we have one at the end of our garden and on a quiet summer night notice it there. The sound is almost below hearing but we sometimes feel it as much as hear it.

    These transformers are not always visible in their own fenced compound, they may be built in if there are industrial premises nearby.

    B
  • ailuro2
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    In which case google earth or aboutmyplace.co.uk is your friend to have an aerial nosy for these.
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  • Barneysmom wrote: »
    It sounds to me (oops) like it could be a water pump of some sort?
    The big type that moves water from a (underground?) stream to a pond or storage area?
    Being farmland there perhaps there's an old one nearby, could there be?
    i'm grasping at straws.
    I wish you lived near me in Staffordshire, I would love to pay a visit and see if I could help pinpoint it.
    Is there any more you could tell us?

    Thank you for replying.

    When the water guys were trying to work out what the noise was they did say something about waste water and it gushing into something underground but then decided it couldn't be that?
    There is no farmland any more - just that it was farm land when it was built on in the 1930's. We are not aware of any water pumps in the area.
    Not sure what else we can tell you - we seemed to have covered almost everything (assuming the utilities people are correct in their assessments that it is not down to their services) except the gas supply?

    Could the gas supply cause humming and vibration - it seems unlikely?

    Kind Regards
    FHM
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