Which Woodburner?

dobefan

Hi everyone,

I've been researching wood stoves and believe that the most efficient usually have a tertiary air system, I will be burning wood all the time.

I need a small stove for the size of room and was hoping the good folks on here could recommend (from experience) me a stove with this air system in the size of a 'little wenlock' / Morso squirel / Clearview pioneer 400.

I appreciate that there are many cheaper stoves on the market, but I've been down that road in the past and want a more efficient one this time.

Thanks in advance.

:T

hethmar

Absolutely the Clearview Pioneer - my husband has been in the business 25 years and he loves that small woodburner - says its the most efficient he has ever seen. (In fact we are replacing one of our open fires with the Pioneer shortly). Oh dont forget to factor in the cost of lining the chimney.

dobefan

Thanks hethmar, my chimney is built with clay flue pipes, do I still need to use a s/s liner? I hadn't planned to! Its a good drawing chimney with the open fire.

Cheers

:-)

hethmar

Well, clay liners are not really suitable for woodburners - we wouldnt connect a woodburner to them as we would not be able to sign it off - you may find that the shop selling you the burner will.

However, you should get a Compliance Certificate from the connector and if you do have the chimney lined and backfilled - - then you will also need a NACE plate with the full details of the lining, the installer, his reg no. etc. to meet legal requirements.

Both the connection of the stove and the lining of the chimney are then registered with the relevant bodies who pass the information to your Local Authority.

If you get someone who is not registered to do the work and self certify the job, you need to have Building Control approval and signing off.

You should have the chimney swept at least twice a heating season by a NACS sweep who will issue you a certificate of attendance which you must keep for guarantee and insurance purposes.

pawpurrs

Has to be a woodwarm or a Clearview both British too!

Woodwarm is just as Good IMO and a bit cheaper too, I have had two and they are fab!

Very efficent and the glass stays totally clean.

jeannieblue

I posted on another thread...

But I'm worried about cost of the lining and flue - its easy to find prices of the stoves on the the internet - but not seen prices of the linings and flue or a rough idea of cost of installation.

Worried about getting ripped off - and am now worried too that cannot afford to have this all done now.

Help

hethmar

Check out the HETAS and NACE websites which give the names of registered engineers in your area. Get at least 3 quotes and ask them to detail the work they plan and the materials they will use. You can get a cheap job and it will be just that - a pot hanger instead of proper support, no insulation and cheaper quality liner. We only use Grade 904 liners (inner and outer walls) with a 25 year guarantee. We always backfill with vermiculite or use rock wool wraps to insulate and support the liner (as a tip, a good engineer will tell you that he will be removing the chimney pot to install the liner)

Oh and once you have the price of the stove you want, do check to see if you can get something like the same price locally as we have hellish problems with some stoves bought over the net.

We have been told recently by a couple of customers that in their first year they saved a tank full of oil by using their woodburners. So it should save you the money you spend in the long run

shifter123

dobefan wrote: »

Hi everyone,

I've been researching wood stoves and believe that the most efficient usually have a tertiary air system, I will be burning wood all the time.

I need a small stove for the size of room and was hoping the good folks on here could recommend (from experience) me a stove with this air system in the size of a 'little wenlock' / Morso squirel / Clearview pioneer 400.

I appreciate that there are many cheaper stoves on the market, but I've been down that road in the past and want a more efficient one this time.

Thanks in advance.

:T

I've recently bought an Aga Much Wenlock from an online store, I found them to be helpful and knowledgeable with a local (well local to them) number I called for some advice. My stove has an air system (I've not used it much yet though as I've only had it fitted a short while) but it does work a treat. It's a good quality (really heavy!!) stove that looks fantastic now it's in place! I'm looking forward to winter so I can use it more often...

Hope this helps

hethmar

Hope you got the chimney lined shifter!!

shifter123

hethmar wrote: »

Hope you got the chimney lined shifter!!

Our fitter suggested we go twin wall (we have the stove in a new extension), we got the twin wall from the online store, they gave us a free length of pipe and a free register plate as well when we bought the stove.

hethmar

Twin wall flexible or solid? Solid will require cutting in at several places to be supported. Both will require insulation. Is the fitter HETAS reg? Dont forget to get your Compliance Certificate from him.