Times Newspaper Report Advises To Buy Property Now!

carolt

Dithering_Dad wrote: »

Carol, if you feel victimized because people 'quote' your posts and offer an alternate viewpoint, then perhaps you shouldn't post on a forum?

Just because you want people who post alternate views from you to 'look like a prat' doesn't mean it will happen. Just because you want house prices to keep falling until you can afford a home doesn't mean it will happen.

Why not post the link, if it makes you feel any better, but do you really think people will care or are interested? This is a thread discussing house price falls. I suggest you post links where other experts support your views.

This was personal attack no. 3.

carolt

Dithering_Dad wrote: »

Carol is just doing her usual trick of trying to distract people from the original point. This is a thread to discuss the Times Newspaper article, Carol does not like the thought that prices may be starting to recover by the time she is ready to buy and so tries to suppress any sort of discussion in regard to house price recovery.

As far as the other thread, she made the same biased claims regarding house prices on that one and I asked her if she had any qualifications or experience in the financial industry. It transpired that she is a housewife (nothing wrong with that, so is my wife) who has no experience in finance and was merely basing her opinion on a few articles she had read in the newspapers and her own desire for a major crash. Carol will always advise people not to buy for two years, not because she works in the property/financial industry and has some inside information, but simply because she wants prices to crash to a point where she can afford to buy.

It's ironic that she rails against the article writers for having vested interests while in the same breath she reveals her own biases.

As you can see from this thread, carol views any dissent as a personal attack. She is also a little self-deluded. She makes up an argument that is nothing to do with what everyone else is discussing and then convinces herself that she has won said argument. Sad really.

The other thing she does is rather clever, she knows that most people don't read all of the posts on a thread, so if you post "Carol, to be honest your stockmarket views would have more impact if you worked as a stockbroker rather than as a Green Grocer", she retorts with many posts ranting about how you are demeaning Green Grocers, and her support group (!!!!!!? and the rest) join in. Then others, who may also be green grocers read the wolf pack's remarks and jump on the band wagon, and condemn you without actually reading your original post. Very manipulative! :eek:

This was attack number 4.

carolt

Etc. Stop presenting yourself as some innocent. As you well know I only responded WHEN YOU ATTACKED ME PERSONALLY because you couldn't just disagree with my point, could you, you had to throw some personal abuse in too, as you're still smarting after making a fool of yourself recently.

It's very clear to me and many others on here that you are nothing more or less than a troll.

Poor you.

confused31_2

I have noticed that anyone who thinks the market is going to pick up, the people who dont own their own houses and our saving or waiting for the house prices to drop jump in and say its a load of rubbish.

These professionals who make these statements know what there going on about, someone said earlier that imigrants are leaving this country but i havent see a decrease in imigrants.

The population is growing by 350.000 people a year and them are the ones who are here legally, now builders have stopped building the writings on the wall theres going to be a house shortage in 2010, this should drive the house prices back up.

Its alway been the same, people seem to think whatever they think will happen, and whatever anyone else say his wrong, just to suit there own circumstances at the time.

I mean i havent seen a massive crash a lot of average house have knocked between 10,000 and 20,000 pound but that is not a crash..

infact for first time buyers properties by me people have only been dropping the price by 5,000 and ive seen a couple have been sold in the last week having checked today, having said that the properties are only up for sale at about 85,000 pounds.

confused

Lotus-eater

Can you two please give it up, I'm fed up with you ruining a decent thread, simply either ignore each other, or argue via bloody pm.
I for one am sick of it!

snoopy78

Dithering_Dad wrote: »

While the estate agent, a property finder and a mortgage broker may have a vested interest in talking up the market, a certain person with no qualifications and no work experience in finances has definite vested interest in talking down the market. Still looking for your bargain house Carol? :rotfl:

Estate agents, property finders and mortgage brokers have been saying now is a good time to buy for the past 12 months, maybe with a few months break in between.

I actually don't believe that Estate agents, property finders or mortgage brokers have any clue about the market in the current position due to the fact that the main driving force behind the falling markets is related to supply and demand of the money markets not the housing market.

Those in banking are in a better condition, and if you listen to there forecasts for the future (as they tend to be truthful to some degree to shareholders to manage expectations) then you'll get a better idea in how quickly a recovery will come.

And as far as I can tell all banks have uniformly put out profit warnings,

pickledpink

CarolT

I started this thread to tak about the report in The Times. I am not inteested in your neurosis'; and your deep desire to try and bring every thread around to YOU!

When you realise you are losing an argument (or you begin to panic that houses may have stabilised and you'll never get on to the property ladder) you deliberately twist the thread from its original topic so as to avert the readers' from the facts.

You come across as very sneaky and devious - and I dare say if you ever get the oportunit to buy one day you'll be the FIRST to try and talk the property market up!

If you have anything to add about the original post then by all means do so, but if You just want to talk about boring old YOU - then STAY OUT OF MY THREAD! OK?

Lotus-eater

pickledpink wrote: »

CarolT

I started this thread to tak about the report in The Times. I am not inteested in your neurosis'; and your deep desire to try and bring every thread around to YOU!

When you realise you are losing an argument (or you begin to panic that houses may have stabilised and you'll never get on to the property ladder) you deliberately twist the thread from its original topic so as to avert the readers' from the facts.

You come across as very sneaky and devious - and I dare say if you ever get the oportunit to buy one day you'll be the FIRST to try and talk the property market up!

If you have anything to add about the original post then by all means do so, but if You just want to talk about boring old YOU - then STAY OUT OF MY THREAD! OK?

Its not your thread to start with and you don't get to choose who comes on it, or what they write.

If you believe property prices have stabilised, then I'm afraid I don't agree with you, but to be fair I would have a bit more evidence than a newspaper article which guesses at the future.

Pal

It appears to me that Carol and DD are as bad as each other. It is very easy to misinterpret the intent of other people's forum posts, but when people start deliberately trying to wind others up, the position degenerates very quickly. Then we reach the point where noone wants the other to have the last word and it gets really pathetic.

The fact is that movements in the housing market are not predicatable in any way by anyone. Anyone who tells you otherwise is lying or deluded. Even people who work in the financial sector, building trade or are commercial property fund managers do not have a clue where the housing sector is going to go. They are just as much in the dark as deluded housewives. (And I know people in all of these categories).

Journalists are the most misinformed of all. Their objective is to get you to read the article, not to educate or, god forbid, tell anyone any "facts".

Of course that doesn't stop a lot of people spouting their wishful thinking under the banner of it being their "opinion". It is all just "noise" without any underlying "signal".

That doesn't stop it being interesting though.... :rotfl:

brit1234

Any one who buys now or in the next few months is going straight into negative equity. To buy now is simply stupid, we have the fastest house prices in history and they are getting bigger. If the market is going to stabalise surely these falling property prices have to slow down rather than speed up.

Property prices are linked to what the banks will lend and the fact is the banks are in deep trouble so don't expect to see a recovery anytime soon.