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Times Newspaper Report Advises To Buy Property Now!

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  • Dithering_Dad
    Dithering_Dad Posts: 4,554 Forumite
    Mortgage-free Glee!
    carolt wrote: »
    Oh give over DD before I post the link to the recent thread where you made such a prat of yourself.

    Carol, if you feel victimized because people 'quote' your posts and offer an alternate viewpoint, then perhaps you shouldn't post on a forum?

    Just because you want people who post alternate views from you to 'look like a prat' doesn't mean it will happen. Just because you want house prices to keep falling until you can afford a home doesn't mean it will happen.

    Why not post the link, if it makes you feel any better, but do you really think people will care or are interested? This is a thread discussing house price falls. I suggest you post links where other experts support your views.
    Mortgage Free in 3 Years (Apr 2007 / Currently / Δ Difference)
    [strike]● Interest Only Pt: £36,924.12 / £ - - - - 1.00 / Δ £36,923.12[/strike] - Paid off! Yay!! :)
    ● Home Extension: £48,468.07 / £44,435.42 / Δ £4032.65
    ● Repayment Part: £64,331.11 / £59,877.15 / Δ £4453.96
    Total Mortgage Debt: £149,723.30 / £104,313.57 / Δ £45,409.73
  • carolt
    carolt Posts: 8,531 Forumite
    adr0ck wrote: »
    i don't see an "attack" as you call it carolt

    or is someone replying to your posts attacking you if they don't necessarily agree with you? :confused:

    and what has it got to do with women?

    Ah, I see you didn't read the thread in question. A very long one in which DD attempted to attack my 'Achilles' heel', which, apparently was being a 'housewife' (despite the fact that (a) I'm not a housewife' and (b) normal people don't regard 'housewives', as he terms them, as the lowest of the low). He managed to eff off large numbers of other posters in the process and make himself look rather foolish - since you're asking.

    http://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/showthread.html?p=12939807#post12939807
  • ad44downey
    ad44downey Posts: 2,246 Forumite
    The author must be a ghost writer for krusty and Phil
    Krusty & Phil Madoff, 1990 - 2007:
    "Buy now because house prices only ever go UP, UP, UP."
  • Dithering_Dad
    Dithering_Dad Posts: 4,554 Forumite
    Mortgage-free Glee!
    adr0ck wrote: »
    i don't see an "attack" as you call it carolt

    or is someone replying to your posts attacking you if they don't necessarily agree with you? :confused:

    and what has it got to do with women?


    Carol is just doing her usual trick of trying to distract people from the original point. This is a thread to discuss the Times Newspaper article, Carol does not like the thought that prices may be starting to recover by the time she is ready to buy and so tries to suppress any sort of discussion in regard to house price recovery.

    As far as the other thread, she made the same biased claims regarding house prices on that one and I asked her if she had any qualifications or experience in the financial industry. It transpired that she is a housewife (nothing wrong with that, so is my wife) who has no experience in finance and was merely basing her opinion on a few articles she had read in the newspapers and her own desire for a major crash. Carol will always advise people not to buy for two years, not because she works in the property/financial industry and has some inside information, but simply because she wants prices to crash to a point where she can afford to buy.

    It's ironic that she rails against the article writers for having vested interests while in the same breath she reveals her own biases.

    As you can see from this thread, carol views any dissent as a personal attack. She is also a little self-deluded. She makes up an argument that is nothing to do with what everyone else is discussing and then convinces herself that she has won said argument. Sad really. :(

    The other thing she does is rather clever, she knows that most people don't read all of the posts on a thread, so if you post "Carol, to be honest your stockmarket views would have more impact if you worked as a stockbroker rather than as a Green Grocer", she retorts with many posts ranting about how you are demeaning Green Grocers, and her support group (!!!!!!? and the rest) join in. Then others, who may also be green grocers read the wolf pack's remarks and jump on the band wagon, and condemn you without actually reading your original post. Very manipulative! :eek:
    Mortgage Free in 3 Years (Apr 2007 / Currently / Δ Difference)
    [strike]● Interest Only Pt: £36,924.12 / £ - - - - 1.00 / Δ £36,923.12[/strike] - Paid off! Yay!! :)
    ● Home Extension: £48,468.07 / £44,435.42 / Δ £4032.65
    ● Repayment Part: £64,331.11 / £59,877.15 / Δ £4453.96
    Total Mortgage Debt: £149,723.30 / £104,313.57 / Δ £45,409.73
  • Pal
    Pal Posts: 2,076 Forumite
    It is threads like this that remind me what a nasty place the MSE forums have become, which is why I stepped down as a moderator and stopped posting a few years ago.
  • carolt
    carolt Posts: 8,531 Forumite
    Carol is just doing her usual trick of trying to distract people from the original point. This is a thread to discuss the Times Newspaper article, Carol does not like the thought that prices may be starting to recover by the time she is ready to buy and so tries to suppress any sort of discussion in regard to house price recovery.

    As far as the other thread, she made the same biased claims regarding house prices on that one and I asked her if she had any qualifications or experience in the financial industry. It transpired that she is a housewife (nothing wrong with that, so is my wife) who has no experience in finance and was merely basing her opinion on a few articles she had read in the newspapers and her own desire for a major crash. Carol will always advise people not to buy for two years, not because she works in the property/financial industry and has some inside information, but simply because she wants prices to crash to a point where she can afford to buy.

    It's ironic that she rails against the article writers for having vested interests while in the same breath she reveals her own biases.

    As you can see from this thread, carol views any dissent as a personal attack. She is also a little self-deluded. She makes up an argument that is nothing to do with what everyone else is discussing and then convinces herself that she has won said argument. Sad really. :(

    Please quote said post from this thread in which I "made the same biased claims regarding house prices" - you can't, because there isn't one.

    I'm not going to rehash the thread, or the argument, but for anyone who wants to see a real 19th century-style sexist in full flow, I suggest they read the original thread; they will be most entertained. :rotfl:
  • carolt
    carolt Posts: 8,531 Forumite
    For thr future, DD, I'm going to put you in the same little 'ignore' box where mr b lives - you two will get on very well, I'm sure.

    Please find some other poor soul to troll. Or you could even get a life....

    Nah....don't see that happening. Have a great day!
  • Dithering_Dad
    Dithering_Dad Posts: 4,554 Forumite
    Mortgage-free Glee!
    Pal wrote: »
    It is threads like this that remind me what a nasty place the MSE forums have become, which is why I stepped down as a moderator and stopped posting a few years ago.

    I agree. It's very frustrating when you post a reasonable reply to a reasonable post (as in the case of me responding to Carolt on this thread) and then you get all this abuse. If you respond to it then the abuse continues and you get embroiled in an argument, yet if you ignore it you then are concerned that other forum users will think "Must be true, he didn't respond".

    It's annoying how people who have an agenda actively try and ruin threads that they disagree with. Sorry to the OP about my part in the hijack of your thread, but as you see from my posts, I am simply responding to carolt's provocation. My first post, I feel was a valid point and when I was attacked for making it, I defended myself.

    p.s. Evidence to back up my view that Carol is trying to wreck this thread with pointless argumentative posts and irrelevent discussions will appear shortly. Having given the promise to 'put me on ignore', carol will no doubt try to continue the argument and sidetrack the thread some more... get ready... here she comes...
    Mortgage Free in 3 Years (Apr 2007 / Currently / Δ Difference)
    [strike]● Interest Only Pt: £36,924.12 / £ - - - - 1.00 / Δ £36,923.12[/strike] - Paid off! Yay!! :)
    ● Home Extension: £48,468.07 / £44,435.42 / Δ £4032.65
    ● Repayment Part: £64,331.11 / £59,877.15 / Δ £4453.96
    Total Mortgage Debt: £149,723.30 / £104,313.57 / Δ £45,409.73
  • carolt
    carolt Posts: 8,531 Forumite
    Sorry Carol, but who would you expect to be commenting on Property - A soldier, a sailor and a candle stick maker?

    I receive notification on share prices and best buys from stockbrokers, who are saying that many shares are at much lower prices than they should be, simply because of an over-reaction in the markets. Am I to disbelieve these experts because they're stockbrokers and have a vested interest in talking up the market?

    While the estate agent, a property finder and a mortgage broker may have a vested interest in talking up the market, a certain person with no qualifications and no work experience in finances has definite vested interest in talking down the market. Still looking for your bargain house Carol? :rotfl:

    I didn't mention you in my post at all - this was personal attack 1.
  • carolt
    carolt Posts: 8,531 Forumite
    This statement tells me you know nothing about the financial world. :rolleyes:



    Hence your closed mind towards any opinion other than your own "Houses are going to fall much further for two years, because I need them to in order to afford a house", scientic approach.



    I didn't realise I was 'attacking' you. If people respond to your posts, giving an alternate view, do you think it's an attack? In the real world, if people have a different viewpoint from you, do you report them to the Police?

    If you feel victimized because people 'quote' your posts and offer an alternate viewpoint, then perhaps you shouldn't post on a forum?

    This was attack no. 2
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