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  • sjaypink
    sjaypink Posts: 6,740 Forumite
    edited 1 May 2011 at 12:06AM
    ILW wrote: »
    The last thing I want is a load of houses being built on the woodlands opposite my place. maybe we should look at decreasing demand (population).
    I was just thinking that. The population (& housebuilding) obviously cannot increase indefinately....

    I wonder what the demographic projections are for the UK? I guess the latest census data will give a more realistic view once released.

    I imagine the trend will be for a slight population decrease over coming decades, and with a greater % of the people living in residential homes perhaps?

    Perhaps the 'dwellings per person' ratio will lower again (although the issue of distribution may well be more appropriate then). What effect on HPI?

    Or, I've got it wrong and factors including, but not limited to, the welfare state and immigration policy, do point towards a considerable increase....
    How can - well, what realistic moves can govt take in order to create - a population decrease (not the china model!)?

    Edit: More & more oldies :-)
    We cannot change anything unless we accept it. Condemnation does not liberate, it oppresses. Carl Jung

  • GDB2222
    GDB2222 Posts: 26,268 Forumite
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    ILW wrote: »
    The last thing I want is a load of houses being built on the woodlands opposite my place. maybe we should look at decreasing demand (population).

    Some sort of cull, maybe?
    No reliance should be placed on the above! Absolutely none, do you hear?
  • Lance
    Lance Posts: 559 Forumite
    GDB2222 wrote: »
    Some sort of cull, maybe?

    Or maybe some sort of immigration control. Maybe refusing to house every 'refugee' who arrives with extended family after passing through half a dozen Euro countries and not claiming refugee status. Now benefits are immediately available to the Eastern Euro's who arrive here we'd better get bulldozing those woodlands so we can house them.
  • ILW
    ILW Posts: 18,333 Forumite
    Op possibly not encouraging our own chav single mothers to have loads of kids to get bigger houses.
  • Theone1_2
    Theone1_2 Posts: 25 Forumite
    Did they used to have about 900 heavily mortgaged houses? How many have they got left?
  • neverdespairgirl
    neverdespairgirl Posts: 16,501 Forumite
    Lance wrote: »
    Or maybe some sort of immigration control. Maybe refusing to house every 'refugee' who arrives with extended family after passing through half a dozen Euro countries and not claiming refugee status.


    Under the Dublin II regs, we can and do return people to other EU member states.
    ...much enquiry having been made concerning a gentleman, who had quitted a company where Johnson was, and no information being obtained; at last Johnson observed, that 'he did not care to speak ill of any man behind his back, but he believed the gentleman was an attorney'.
  • neverdespairgirl
    neverdespairgirl Posts: 16,501 Forumite
    Now is probably one of the best times ever for existing landlords and buy-to-letters. Thousands must be on rates of 3% or less whilst rents have gone upwards - so the scope for portfolio expansion is getting stonger month by month. Even my sister's copper boyfriend is looking for his first BTL, such is the conviction that ultra low rates are here to stay and rents will rise massively on the back of chronic shortages.

    New BTL-ers, though, seem to get much worse mortgage rates than new domestic buyers, it seems? Huge arrangement fees, for example.
    ...much enquiry having been made concerning a gentleman, who had quitted a company where Johnson was, and no information being obtained; at last Johnson observed, that 'he did not care to speak ill of any man behind his back, but he believed the gentleman was an attorney'.
  • John_Pierpoint
    John_Pierpoint Posts: 8,401 Forumite
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    edited 4 May 2011 at 3:09AM
    Don't you just love the way that politicians and apologists love to quote the falling rate of increase, rather than the absolute numbers of population increase:

    http://www.breathingearth.net/

    Just hover the cursor over individual countries to get their statistics (Japan & Russia are not particularly wonderful portents of the future nor are the Muslim countries.)

    For as long as there is an increase it tends to be exponential - a bit like interest on debt..
  • rockitup
    rockitup Posts: 677 Forumite
    Don't you just love the way that politicians and apologists love to quote the falling rate of increase, rather than the absolute numbers of population increase:

    http://www.breathingearth.net/

    Just hover the cursor over individual countries to get their statistics (Japan & Russia are not particularly wonderful portents of the future nor are the Muslim countries.)

    For as long as there is an increase it tends to be exponential - a bit like interest on debt..

    Interesting site John and thanks for the link.

    I checked out quite a few countries both in Europe and Asia, must say I was not too surprised to see higher birth rates in the latter continent.

    It did confirm my suspicions about Philippines (where I currently live) being a "Baby Factory" with close to 5 babies born per minute, whilst the death rate was just 1 per minute... Thing is that a lot of people boast about the surging population here even though so many are hungry and uneducated

    Sorry for going off topic
  • experience08
    experience08 Posts: 223 Forumite
    Any NEW NEWS on the The Wilsons empire?
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