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Dithering_Dad wrote: »

Why not post into the DFW thread and ask what they think of you there? You may think you're a big man on the housing forum, but you're a complete joke there. :rotfl:

Hi DD,

I think it's true that many people post on just one board and find posters on other boards "strange". Many posters seem to have problems with the DFW board (which is presumably why they are currently getting so many "unsupportive" posts) and as you know, many posters have thought the MFWs are bonkers. Likewise, there are many who just wouldn't understand the "old stylers" (I have to say I include myself in this! - Mooncups, don't even go there!) or the greens....my point is that many posters on one board don't understand posters on another board, the HPC is no different in that regard IMHO. So if the DFWs don't understand the HPCs I don't think that makes the HPCs worthy of abuse anymore than the abuse currently being waged on the DFWs...if you see what I mean..

JoJil

Dithering_Dad wrote: »

Hi jojill, what comments have I been making about women (plural) please enlighten me? I fear you've fallen for the 'repeater trick', where if some says something enough times, people start believing it. I have said nothing about women on this thread, I have only been quoted as saying stuff. When I ask them to elaborate (as I just have with you) they go quiet.

I was going to leave this but as you have sent me a private email, I will respond to this.

Just from this thread alone, you wrote.

Dithering_Dad wrote: »

Pleas accept my apologies for my assuming that you had any more idea of what's going to happen in the next 6 months than the next housewife.

Dithering_Dad wrote: »

When do you find time to do the shopping, dusting and hoovering?

Dithering_Dad wrote: »

I suggest that if you're struggling to find time for your dusting and other housekeeping chores that you spend less time on MSE spouting your half-baked financial ideas compiled from the Daily Mail, et al.

You owe it to your hubby to provide him with a clean and tidy home, he's working all day for you. Go on, run along, little lady.

Dithering_Dad wrote: »

I can take it, but can you? By the extent of your housewife and 'vicious attacks' ranting, I'd say not. :rotfl:

My Uncle makes the same sort of derogatory comments to the women in his family. His daughter is now in his late 20s and has no confidence in herself at all after growing up with her father's attitude. My aunt was never strong enough to stand up to him as he took her confidence too.

mlmoneysaver

Is there an animated emoticon for running yourself over in your own car as that is what this thread is now making me feel like doing?

JoJil

Dithering_Dad wrote: »

I also have to point out that I'm not your uncle or in any way connected with your families problems. Often one sees people project their own issues onto other people's posts and read what they like into them, whether that was the original intent or not.

What I was trying to point out in a subltle way was, if you have a daughter you will be doing to her what my uncle did to his daughter with his put downs on women.

JoJil

Dithering_Dad wrote: »

YI did try and get jojil to discuss this via PM rather than continue this rather tedious and irrelevant argument on the thread ("I was going to leave this but as you have sent me a private email") but jill chose to post into the thread instead.

No you didn't. First you put this on the list.

Dithering_Dad wrote: »

Hi jojill, what comments have I been making about women (plural) please enlighten me?

When I didn't respond, you sent me a pm to promptt me to respond to your previous request.


Hi Jojill, you posted the following on a thread:
Quote:
Originally Posted by JoJil
[FONT=&quot]I did ask you to post a link to these comments I made about women (I'm assuming you feel they were derogatory). As you haven't responded, I'm assuming you didn't see my response.

Could you please do me the courtesy of telling me what derogatory remarks I made against women?

[/FONT] I look forward to your response,

Take care,
DD

[FONT=&quot]There was no mention of talking in private emails with you. You gave a link to the thread.

As I now understand from your recent post, you meant that you wanted to talk in private emails. I would be grateful if you would note for the future, that I do not wish to engage in private emails with you.

I just tried again to alter the writing back to a larger size, but I can't do it.
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carolt

Dithering_Dad wrote: »

The first comment was where I had asked carol if she worked in the financial industry because she was making some very direct and definitive statements about the state of the housing & stock markets over the next few years and I wanted to demonstrate that her views were no more than speculation based on her desire to see a housing crash. Having determined that Carol was a housewife, I remarked that she has no more idea of what the future holds than the next housewife. Had she been a tax driver I would have said she has no more idea than the next taxi drivor. The meaning here is that a housewife or a taxi driver is NOT a financial advisor so the views expressed are not based on any financial qualifications or work experience. The 'dig' here is not at housewives but at self-appointed experts who do not have any real experience in that area.

I'm no more a housewife than you are a house husband (well, except I know how to cook, and you, apparently don't). I work full-time as a mother and in paid work. My paid work and family duties are no more or less relevant to my comments on here than yours is. Unless you are going to claim IT consultants have some specialist knowledge of stockmarkets/housing markets, then presumably you will cease to express opinions on the housing market, as you have no right to do so. By your logic, only mortgage brokers, estate agents, BTL 'professionals' and bankers such as Generali should be permitted to post. Which is blatant nonsense, clearly - or to put it this way - you appear to be on the wrong website.

Again, the second comment was in regard to her work. If she indeed studies the financial markets as studiously as she maintains, then I was wondering how on earth does she find time to do her job (which in her case is as a housewife). Had she been a plumber, I would have asked how she finds time to weld pipes, dig drains and fix washing machines while she is studying the markets. The meaning here is that one cannot be an expert in a subject unless one devotes a large amount of time in the study and practice of that subject. This is very difficult to do if one has a full time job that is non-related to the subject matter. The 'dig' here is that I do not believe carol could be an expert in finance when she already has a full-time job as a house wife (or plumber or taxi driver or whatever job she may have had).

I find enough time to read the papers and comment on here. How do you find enough time to reply? Business a bit slow at the moment?

The third comment was in reply to carol 's many acusations that I should stop posting and get on with my job. Had carol been an I.T. consultant (like me), I would have said "I suggest if you're struggling to complete that configuration and other I.T. chores that you send less time posting your half-baked views on MSE". The remainder of the comment was aimed directly at carol who seems to spend an inordinate amount of time on MSE rather than doing her job (like the rest of us, probably!). The 'run along little lady' was a little condescending but it served it's purpose and annoyed carol.

No, it made you look like a patronising, sexist fool.

The final comment was where I just mentioned that carol was ranting about "housewives and vicious attacks from other people". Not sure what's desparaging against women with that.

I have to say that had carol worked in any other job other than as a housewife, I would not have had any of the flack I picked up on this thread. If people feel inferior or undervalued because they're 'housewives', 'house husbands' or 'homemakers' then that's not really my fault.

If you really can't see why so many people had a problem with what you posted then that really is your problem.

I also have to point out that I'm not your uncle or in any way connected with your families problems. Often one sees people project their own issues onto other people's posts and read what they like into them, whether that was the original intent or not.

Good idea - let's attack another woman.....

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JoJil

Dithering_Dad wrote: »

At the risk of causing more forum members to cast themselves under a car, I'll respond this last time, as Jill has posted into the thread again.

I posted again because you weren't telling the truth.

You accused me of something in the thread and I asked to you elaborate. You didn't so I naturally assumed that you either just like to throw around accusations or that you didn't want to further clog up the thread.

I PMed you asking if you'd do me the courtesy of responding. I assumed that as I PMed the request to you, you'd respond in the same way. You decided instead to post into the thread. That's your choice, I don't mind either way.

I repeat, you sent me a link to the thread in your pm and asked me to respond!
I then gave you the evidence you asked for through the link you sent.

I feel that I've answered your criticisms and if you decide to dismiss them then that's your perogative. Having had the opportunity to respond to your criticism I really don't see why I would wish to correspond with you in the future.

You tried to make excuses for your behaviour, but that doesn't excuse your derogatory posts on women.

Take care,
DD.

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mewbie_2

Jesus. Diddling Dad is just a wind up merchant, comes across as an obnoxious little man (how tall are you DD?), and presumably does not have a high powered job as claimed as he can spend a large amount of time on here.

Have you actually got any thoughts of your own DD? Or is your entire reason for being here to just wind people up. How about posting a joke or two, or something that is insightful - either bearish or bullishh - something may be of interest?

Got anything useful to say? No? Thought not.

Oh... and please don't PM me you pervert.

mewbie_2

Come on Mr. B - you're better than that. Carole posts a lot of useful stuff on here, and gets attacked for wearing her heart on her sleeve, and being an 'easy' target to some people's eyes. Yes, she's easy to wind up, and yes she does respond in full, but let's get a bit of perspective here.

Join in the lemon thread, or post some bullish links for debating, or have a go at me instead. In fact don't have a go at me coz I am not looking for trouble.

mr.broderick

mewbie wrote: »

Jesus. Diddling Dad is just a wind up merchant, comes across as an obnoxious little man (how tall are you DD?), and presumably does not have a high powered job as claimed as he can spend a large amount of time on here.

Have you actually got any thoughts of your own DD? Or is your entire reason for being here to just wind people up. How about posting a joke or two, or something that is insightful - either bearish or bullishh - something may be of interest?

Got anything useful to say? No? Thought not.

Oh... and please don't PM me you pervert.

Can i pm you gorgeous?