Cutting it fine with MOT/Tax - Reassure me!

derrick

Wig wrote: »

Derrick, I cannot believe you still refuse to believe this, You forgot to critique my own link in my post above which proves this.

If you don't believe the Direct.gov website, then phone up DVLA and ask them.

I showed how each of the "official sites" above were being misrepresented on this, they are both talking about using the vehicle on the road. Neither site is an official DVLA or DVLA related site. And if you ask me they should both be edited to give the whole 100% truth on this issue not the half truth.

The first link in post #5 is from the Police National Legal Database.
Second link is from Dumfries and Galloway Constabulary.

Don't believe everything you read on Government websites!

It is an OFFENCE to have a vehicle on a public highway without a valid RFL, that is also on your Direct.gov website

From the link you gave, then from this page Car Tax Rules via that link at the bottom of the page; -
"If you use or keep a vehicle on a public road, you must display a valid tax disc on it. As the registered keeper of the vehicle you’re responsible for taxing it or making a SORN (Statutory Off Road Notification) if it’s to be kept off the road."

Nowhere on that site does it say you have 14 days grace!

Besides anything else, why risk it?
Why keep arguing?

BigBouncyBall

stop it the pair of you

Wig

Derrick stop being a jerk. You are either trying to wind me up or can't read what has been written in this thread.

My last farewell link for you on this subject
http://www.dvla.gov.uk/media/pdf/leaflets/ins107.pdf

if you are waiting for insurance or are getting an MOT for your vehicle, you may not be able to renew your tax on time. By law you, as the Registered Keeper, you will not be committing an offence if you tax the vehicle or make a SORN within 14 days of the date your current tax disc runs out. However, you must keep your vehicle off the road during this time as it is an offence to use your vehicle without displaying a valid tax disc

Bon Voyage Derrick, I suppose you won't be back here just like when you never returned to the Road Vehicles Lighting Thread where I showed you were wrong there aswell......

Whether you guys like it or not, the DVLA does give you an official 14 days to renew.

derrick

Wig wrote: »

Derrick stop being a jerk. You are either trying to wind me up or can't read what has been written in this thread.

My last farewell link for you on this subject
http://www.dvla.gov.uk/media/pdf/leaflets/ins107.pdf
Bon Voyage Derrick, I suppose you won't be back here just like when you never returned to the Road Vehicles Lighting Thread where I showed you were wrong there aswell......

Whether you guys like it or not, the DVLA does give you an official 14 days to renew.

The jerk is you by keep stating a lie, and cannot read what has been written in this thread.

Were would be the point in waiting 14 days, as even you have admitted you have to pay from the beginning of the month if you want to use your vehicle on a public road, so why wait?

There are 2 links above telling you there is not 14 days grace, your link does not actually say " 14 days grace" it appears to be in some very extenuating circumstance, and by the time you have taxed it in those Mythical 14 days it will be registered as taxed, and you cannot drive the vehicle legally on a public road without displaying a current RFL, so your point is academic.

The reason I never continued on the last post was that you were wrong there as you are now and the argument/debate was going round in circles , just as this one is, so I will not be coming back here either, so you can go back to whatever cloud cuckoo land you are inhabiting this time!

banger9365

here here derrick
a long time ago i got fined for having my ved out of date by two days by dvla WIG how do's that figure in what your saying and thing has got more stricter since then ,it only happend to me once and that was over tweenty years ago.
14 day grace my giddy aunt who are you kidding

and what happens when you go passed a ANPR camera with no tax the day after it ran out hay

quote from you post WIG "However, you must keep your vehicle off the road during this time as it is an offence to use your vehicle without displaying a valid tax disc"

Wig

derrick wrote: »

What would be the point in waiting 14 days,

Read the OP Derrick, The poster has no MOT, while he is waiting to get a pass cert, he need not do anything for his tax status, and he need not worry about an automatic fine, it gives him peace of mind. The rule also (like it or not) gives people who just forget, the opportunity to renew and not get an automatic fine - hopefully they have avoided the police for the separate offence of using the vehicle in themeantime.

as even you have admitted you have to pay from the beginning of the month if you want to use your vehicle on a public road, so why wait?

Doh, read my lips, no MOT.

There are 2 links above telling you there is not 14 days grace, your link does not actually say " 14 days grace"

Being pedantic eh? Where in post #4 does it say "14 days grace"? Irrespective, I would call it a grace period from an automatic fine given by the DVLA no-one else but the DVLA, how else would you describe it?

it appears to be in some very extenuating circumstance,

Oh it exists now does it Derrick? Be careful. However it will also be of comfort to all those people who have not been seen on the road but who forgot to renew their discs.

and by the time you have taxed it in those Mythical 14

Ahh the old Derrick is back again,

days it will be registered as taxed,

No s,,, Sherlock

and you cannot drive the vehicle legally on a public road without displaying a current RFL,

Who said you could? - Except to an MOT appointment or a booked garage repair for the purposes of an MOT fail item?

so your point is academic.

But you admit I do have a point, that's a breakthrough, thanks Derrick.

The reason I never continued on the last post was that you were wrong there as you are now

Lets be clear Derrick, I was talking about the thread where you and Conor decided I was wrong when I said you could obtain an MOT pass by masking out all the lights on a vehicle. After I showed it was true, you never reared your head there again.

go back to whatever cloud cuckoo land you are inhabiting this time!

Yes Derrick, whatever you say.

Wig

banger9365 wrote: »

here here derrick
a long time ago i got fined for having my ved out of date by two days by dvla WIG how do's that figure in what your saying and thing has got more stricter since then ,it only happend to me once and that was over tweenty years ago.
14 day grace my giddy aunt who are you kidding

Lol, I'm sure your vehicle must have been seen on the highway. Continuous Regulation disn't even exist back then - (compulsory VED or SORN)

and what happens when you go passed a ANPR camera with no tax the day after it ran out hay

You might be investigated, but who said that wouldn't happen?

quote from you post WIG "However, you must keep your vehicle off the road during this time as it is an offence to use your vehicle without displaying a valid tax disc"

Yes, well done, now read post #4 and tell me what that I wrote on this issue is wrong? (ignoring the bit in blue which is a different subject and I admit may be wrong.)

derrick

Wig wrote: »

Read the OP Derrick, The poster has no MOT, while he is waiting to get a pass cert, he need not do anything for his tax status, and he need not worry about an automatic fine, it gives him peace of mind. The rule also (like it or not) gives people who just forget to be able to renew and not get an automatic fine - hopefully they avoid the police for the separate offence of using the vehicle.

Doh, read my lips, no MOT.

Being pedantic eh? Where in post #4 does it say "14 days grace"? Irrespective, I would call it a grace period from an automatic fine given by the DVLA no-one else but the DVLA, how else would you describe it?



Oh it exists now does it Derrick? Be careful. However it will also be of comfort to all those people who have not been seen on the road but who forgot to renew their discs.

Ahh the old Derrick is back again,

No s,,, Sherlock


Who said you could?But you admit I do have a point, that's a breakthrough, thanks Derrick.

Lets be clear Derrick, I was talking about the thread where you and Conor decided I was wrong when I said you could obtain an MOT pass by masking out all the lights on a vehicle. After I showed it was true, you never reared your head there again.
That was never proved, you cannot mask out all lights and get an MOT cert, what if it was foggy outside or very bad visibility? you would need those lights to get to and from the MOT centre. And as i said in my quote #15,(which you chose to edit); - The reason I never continued on the last post was that you were wrong there as you are now and the argument/debate was going round in circles

Yes Derrick, whatever you say.

And as usual you edit the quotes to suit your agenda.

Sorry I know I said I would not come back but those edited quotes are ludicrous:rotfl::rotfl:

banger9365

no ved no road full stop get fine end off

Wig

derrick wrote: »

That was never proved, you cannot mask out all lights and get an MOT cert, what if it was foggy outside or very bad visibility? you would need those lights to get to and from the MOT centre

You're unbelievable Derrick (don't worry Conor is the same as you, you can keep each other company), even when the legislation is put infront of your nose you refuse to accept you are wrong. Fog and or bad visibility play no part in the regulations, all that matters is that it is between sunrise and sunset, you can opt to keep your fog lamps unmasked anyway.

So are you conceeding (in Derrick logic) that if it was a nice sunny day you could drive to an MOT and obtain a pass with masked out lights?

I'm not going to repeat the info on that thread, go and read it if you want to, or on the other hand, bury your head in the sand.