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Solicitor refuses to return our deeds
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Right or wrong, the blood suckers will get their money and don't waste your time complaining to the Law Society."A nation's greatness is measured by how it treats its weakest members." ~ Mahatma Gandhi
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lincroft1710 wrote: »They can also put a charge on your house if you fail to pay
After they have obtained a court order.
the poster formerly known as
terryw"If you can bear to hear the truth you've spoken
Twisted by knaves to make a trap for fools"
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Right or wrong, the blood suckers will get their money and don't waste your time complaining to the Law Society.
Your comment is misguided because in my lifetime in property I have known a number of people who complain about their solicitor to their professional bodies and on the whole they (the lay people) have a sucessful outcome.A retired senior partner, in own agency, with 40 years experience in property sales & new build. In latter part of career specialising in commercial - mostly business sales.0 -
Your comment is misguided because in my lifetime in property I have known a number of people who complain about their solicitor to their professional bodies and on the whole they (the lay people) have a sucessful outcome.
Sorry, Chickmug, this is just your opinion and does not bear out with my experiences.
The Law Society is merely a trade union for legal people only interested in obtaining money for the legal boys. My opinion borne out by my experience.
To summarize the story. I have always done my own conveyancing. Some solicitors hate this for obvious reasons. Last house I sold, buyer's solicitor wrote and told buyer that I was acting criminally doing this. Abject rubbish, but I complained to the Law Society as being a man of impeccable character I object strongly to being called a criminal. Law Society refused to do anything as imposing a sanction could affect solicitors means of making money! They are a useless organisation only out to assist the legal bods.
FWIIW, senior partner then instructed said solicitor to deal with me, and I had great delight in keeping buyer up to date and pointing out all the faults and delays of his solicitor. Also I dropped strong hints about morality of said solicitor. End result
was that sale went through, buyer thinks solicitor is rubbish and has told all his friends and relatives his opinion of them, none of who will ever deal with that firm. A satisfactory outcome for me but no thanks at all to the professional body.
the poster formerly known as
terryw"If you can bear to hear the truth you've spoken
Twisted by knaves to make a trap for fools"
Extract from "If" by Rudyard Kipling0 -
leosayer39 wrote: »To answer your first question, I would refer you to my first post in this thread in which I clearly stated that the solicitor was instructed on a no sale no fee basis.
Our sale did not take place, through no fault of our own, and therefore there should be no fee.
To answer your other comments I would advise that we have today written to our solicitors to ask them for a detailed breakdown of our account.
Just so that you are all in the picture our bill is just short of a grand!!
As for my approach not doing me any favours; well......I do think that saying that they are going to hold onto our deeds, and use them a lever to ensure that the bill is paid is indeed quite disgraceful.
I am aware that I have to pay for disbursements and I have no objection to that at all.
I have started a seperate thread regarding the value of house deeds.
Leo
Well, if you and your solicitor agree on this, then your account will be for the grand total of £0.00 on which you can return and declare as settled in full.
However, I think your solictor may have a different approach to you on this. Let's hope you have this no sale, no fee in writing so that you can remind the solictor that this is what he originally agreed to when he submits you your account."Now to trolling as a concept. .... Personally, I've always found it a little sad that people choose to spend such a large proportion of their lives in this way but they do, and we have to deal with it." - MSE Forum Manager 6th July 20100 -
Was there a Home Information Pack (HIP) for the house you were buying, as some of the searches etc will have been paid for by the seller. There are very little Disbursments for a sale.I am a Mortgage Consultant and don't like to be told what I can and can't put in a signature so long as it's legal and truthful.0
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When we sold our last house and bought this one, it was no sale no fee but that did not include any searches etc or anything that was requested that had to be paid for by them. An example was a road plan from the local council that the buyer's solicitor wanted and that had to be paid for, so obviously we had to bear the cost of that.
What we wouldn't have paid for if the sale hadn't gone through was the solicitors time only. I can't remember how much all our searches and things came to, but I do remember it was quite a lot. This may be what you are being charged for.0 -
If the no-sale, no-fee is on the basis that the property is still for sale it is reasonable for th solicitor to keep the deeds ready for the next sale. If they are not charging you, they should be able to re-use any paper work they have to date. I would also suggest that the no-sale, no-fee means that you have to keep with the same solicitors for the next buyer.I'm a Forum Ambassador on the housing, mortgages & student money saving boards. I volunteer to help get your forum questions answered and keep the forum running smoothly. Forum Ambassadors are not moderators and don't read every post. If you spot an illegal or inappropriate post then please report it to forumteam@moneysavingexpert.com (it's not part of my role to deal with this). Any views are mine and not the official line of MoneySavingExpert.com.0
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Sorry, Chickmug, this is just your opinion and does not bear out with my experiences.
The Law Society is merely a trade union for legal people only interested in obtaining money for the legal boys. My opinion borne out by my experience.
To summarize the story. I have always done my own conveyancing. Some solicitors hate this for obvious reasons. Last house I sold, buyer's solicitor wrote and told buyer that I was acting criminally doing this. Abject rubbish, but I complained to the Law Society as being a man of impeccable character I object strongly to being called a criminal. Law Society refused to do anything as imposing a sanction could affect solicitors means of making money! They are a useless organisation only out to assist the legal bods.
FWIIW, senior partner then instructed said solicitor to deal with me, and I had great delight in keeping buyer up to date and pointing out all the faults and delays of his solicitor. Also I dropped strong hints about morality of said solicitor. End result
was that sale went through, buyer thinks solicitor is rubbish and has told all his friends and relatives his opinion of them, none of who will ever deal with that firm. A satisfactory outcome for me but no thanks at all to the professional body.
the poster formerly known as
terryw
I accept your point but is it based on limited experience unless I am missing a point. I base my comments as the the senior partner in an agents having dealt with 1000's of sales.A retired senior partner, in own agency, with 40 years experience in property sales & new build. In latter part of career specialising in commercial - mostly business sales.0 -
If the no-sale, no-fee is on the basis that the property is still for sale it is reasonable for th solicitor to keep the deeds ready for the next sale. If they are not charging you, they should be able to re-use any paper work they have to date. I would also suggest that the no-sale, no-fee means that you have to keep with the same solicitors for the next buyer.
Well said. I have little time for the conveyancing monopoly solicitors but the OP merely has to stay with this solicitor when the house is sold, as you say.
the poster formerly known as
terryw"If you can bear to hear the truth you've spoken
Twisted by knaves to make a trap for fools"
Extract from "If" by Rudyard Kipling0
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