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  • lumpy_bum
    lumpy_bum Posts: 3,876 Forumite
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  • weegie.geek
    weegie.geek Posts: 3,432 Forumite
    Glad to see things have settled down in here now. Must be the heat. :beer:
    Avoriaz wrote: »
    I don't really understand the difference between image, ghost etc.

    There's no difference. There's a drive imaging program called Ghost that pretty much used to be the best at what it did (maybe it still is, I've not used it for years) so like "hoovering", "perspex" and "velcro", "ghosting" became the genericised trademark for making an image of your hard drive.
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  • Idiophreak
    Idiophreak Posts: 12,024 Forumite
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    Avoriaz wrote: »
    Now that I have two 2.5 inch disks, I would like to keep the spare 2.5 inch disk as an exact copy so that in the event of a failure, I can be up and running again in minutes by just swapping the disks over.

    It is tough with lappies, not so much in the way of RAID available...so you might be right. If you really want to recover quickly (especiallyo on the road) a cloned hdd in your pocket might be the quickest way to do it.
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    "Is that a cloned hdd in your pocket, or ... ?"
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  • rdwarr
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    Fifer wrote: »
    "Is that a cloned hdd in your pocket, or ... ?"

    It's a cloned hdd in my pocket. Remember where you are ;)
    Can I help?
  • aqueoushumour01
    aqueoushumour01 Posts: 1,687 Forumite
    wow this thread got really heated for a while there! Thanks for all the useful comments - so it looks like the internal + enclosure looks the best bet as it sounds like most external drives are 3.5 (the bigger capacity ones anyway) I think 160gb would be enough but i may still go for an external if i feel i need more space.

    cloning is the best option for me and less time consuming that moving over all the files - i imagine this is fine if the hard drive is relatively empty but when it's full like mine it'd take more time - the quicker the better.

    As Avoriaz has asked, what good cloning software is availble (for free)?
    :D
  • Leopard
    Leopard Posts: 1,786 Forumite
    Avoriaz wrote: »


    2.5 inch drives normally have much lower data storage capacities. 160gb is the biggest that I have seen. This compares to 500gb or more on 3.5 inch drives.

    Drives of 2.5" in capacities of 500 GB are easily (if quite expensively) available, even in England.

    http://www.lambda-tek.com/componentshop/index.pl?prodID=B99763


    Avoriaz wrote: »
    You can mount a 2.5 inch drive internally in a laptop or mount the exact same drive externally in a caddy or enclosure and connect it to the laptop with USB2 or Firewire etc. Ditto with 3.5 inch drives and desktop PCs.


    USB2 enclosures for 2.5" drives are widely available for less than £5.

    However, I don't like them much because they usually require a Y-lead with two USB2 plugs to provide them with sufficient power. This can be extremely inconvenient, particularly if your laptop has two USB2 ports but on opposite sides of the computer (an arrangement designed to enable both right-handers and left-handers to plug in a mouse on whichever side suits them best).

    I far prefer to use Firewire enclosures. They need only one Firewire port to power them and they permit daisy chaining. For most purposes they're faster than USB2 and, whereas USB2 uses the CPU to control things, Firewire doesn't.

    It's not easy to find 2.5" Firewire enclosures, though. I know a number of sources for 2.5" Firewire 400 enclosures but only four suppliers of 2.5" Firewire 800 enclosures, none of them cheap. Mostly, I buy them online, from America.


    Avoriaz wrote: »
    All that Aqueoushumour01 needs to do is to make sure that the new disk that he buys is compatible with his laptop. It must be the same physical size and have the same interface. Almost certainly that is 2.5 inch and IDE. I doubt that the spin speed matters very much.

    Aqueous has a one-year old laptop computer. In all probability it will have a SATA hard drive, not an IDE drive. All Apple MacBooks, for example, have come with SATA drives for the last two and a half years.

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  • weegie.geek
    weegie.geek Posts: 3,432 Forumite
    Not checked the price difference between the 400 and 800 enclosures over here Leopard, but how about a 2.5">3.5" adapter (rails and the cable) inside a 3.5" firewire enclosure? The bracket and the cable should only cost a few pounds.
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  • how can I tell whether my hard drive is IDE or SATA - is the only option to open up my laptop and find out?
    :D
  • weegie.geek
    weegie.geek Posts: 3,432 Forumite
    how can I tell whether my hard drive is IDE or SATA - is the only option to open up my laptop and find out?

    No, you should be able to check the drive's model number in device manager.

    Under the disk drives bit, it'll say something like SAMSUNG HD502IJ or whatever manufacturer made yours. Google for the HD502IJ, and you'll find out if it's SATA or IDE/ATA.
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