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Above garage storage - DIY advice req'd !

We have a high ceiling in our garage, we'd like to construct a storage area above for odds and ends - the things that mean we can't park a car in our garage :)

I was reckoning on using heavy duty bolts into the concrete block walls - through 100mm wooden brackets, the length of each wall. Then use large timbers across the 275cm span.

This sound ok?
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  • dad-of-4
    dad-of-4 Posts: 390 Forumite
    be much easier to use joist hangers. i dont think they are too dear and would be the proper way to do it i expect. unless im missunderstanding your intentions.
  • peterwynne
    peterwynne Posts: 32 Forumite
    Something like this ?
    The size is 275cm wide - then 300cm deep. What sort of size timber would I need for the span, and how many should I need for the 300cm length?
    Thanks for your help!
  • jennifernil
    jennifernil Posts: 5,830 Forumite
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    Can you estimate the weight of what you want to store on this structure?
  • peterwynne
    peterwynne Posts: 32 Forumite
    I'm bad at estimating weight.. the heaviest things would be a couple of boxes of books.. across the whole structure - 150kgs at the most. Very roughly.
  • jennifernil
    jennifernil Posts: 5,830 Forumite
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    150kg total is nothing!

    Hang on, OH is structural engineer, he has his pencil out!

    Could take a few minutes yet!
  • maninthestreet
    maninthestreet Posts: 16,127 Forumite
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    I have something like that in my garage, put up by one of the DPOs. Would be ok if one of the joists hadn't snapped, and been repaired by nailing a flimsy piece of wood across the join to hold it all together.
    "You were only supposed to blow the bl**dy doors off!!"
  • jennifernil
    jennifernil Posts: 5,830 Forumite
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    Hi,

    OH suggests you use 6 joists in dressed redwood size 7" x 2" spaced 60cm apart. These need to be braced apart either end and in the middle to make them stable. Cover with chipboard flooring.

    For support you could use 4" x 2" timbers fixed to the walls with rawlbolts such as item 44397 from Screwfix. Use at least 1 below each joist position.

    Or you could use joist hangers, which would mean the bracing was only required in the middle. You would need to drill them to take at least 4 rawlbolts minimum size M6.
  • peterwynne
    peterwynne Posts: 32 Forumite
    spot on, thank you very very much!

    Saved me a head ache :)
  • peterwynne
    peterwynne Posts: 32 Forumite
    the rawbolts, I've never used them before. How do they expand in the wall?
  • Mr_Warren_2
    Mr_Warren_2 Posts: 991 Forumite
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    Drill to recommended size, hammer rawbolts in hole ......they are stuck !!!
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