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A change in sentiment

The talk around the office has gradually changed from house price crash denial, through anger and now on to the bargaining stage. A number of people who have been trying to sell their home are now saying they are "not going to give it away" and have stopped reducing and put it up for rent. Those that have rented out are not covering their mortgage, but are telling each other that it is only for a year or two, "until houses start rising again."

Wonder how long it will take to get through depression and finally acceptance, as per Kubler Ross.
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  • Woby_Tide
    Woby_Tide Posts: 5,344 Forumite
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    if you honestly think that 99% of the population think prices only ever go up then there is only one moron around here
  • poppy10_2
    poppy10_2 Posts: 6,588 Forumite
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    Woby_Tide wrote: »
    if you honestly think that 99% of the population think prices only ever go up then there is only one moron around here

    OK, that was an exagerration, but still, I would agree that the vast majority of the population believe that house prices always go up (more than wage inflation) long term. Even people who lived through the last crash, who should know better, have had all the "strong fundamentals" and "supply and demand" nonsense drummed into them so much that they repeat it like a mantra.
    poppy10
  • m00m00
    m00m00 Posts: 1,755 Forumite
    I've been using kubler ross comparisons on here for months :)


    this forum is alternating still between denial and anger as far as it's resident bulls are concerned.
    It's a health benefit ...
  • Pobby
    Pobby Posts: 5,438 Forumite
    I know, I know, I know. Mortgage free here. House up by 400% ! I have only one house. Me and Mrs. Pobby live in it. If it`s a tenner or a squillion quid it`s value (not price), value remains the same.

    I can only point out that mewing is no more than using your house as collateral for a LOAN ! A loan has to be repaid.

    We talked on another thread re life plans. My plan was (is) to stay here until retirement and then sell to by a bungalow at a well know seaside resort. This, back say 10 years ago would mean us finding an extra £10k from savings and then job done.Now that anount would be a great deal more so housies dropping in value suits me just fine.

    We have heard all the stories about needing more homes, large amounts of people arriving from Eastern Europe (last time I looked many were on a one way trip back).

    To me, in truth, there is no collective reason why my home is priced at a 400% increase to what it was 10 years ago.
  • wibble68_2
    wibble68_2 Posts: 176 Forumite
    poppy10 wrote: »
    The talk around the office has gradually changed from house price crash denial, through anger and now on to the bargaining stage. A number of people who have been trying to sell their home are now saying they are "not going to give it away" and have stopped reducing and put it up for rent. Those that have rented out are not covering their mortgage, but are telling each other that it is only for a year or two, "until houses start rising again."

    Wonder how long it will take to get through depression and finally acceptance, as per Kubler Ross.

    Yes, I think the penny has finally dropped.

    Most of my friends and family have been telling me for years
    that prices only every go up. I've been a great believer in boom
    and bust cycles, purely because these cycles are driven by greed.

    Now my friends and family have gone very quiet on the subject.
    I wouldn't lower myself to tell them "I told you so", but it would
    be nice if some of the people who told me that I was mad, and
    didn't know how the housing market worked, would admit to
    being wrong.
  • carolt
    carolt Posts: 8,531 Forumite
    Mercifully, for that still large percentage that believe house prices only ever go up, rescue from the consequences of their own folly has come in the shape of that unlikely knight - the Credit Crunch. Protecting People from Buying An Over-Priced Rabbit Hutch is his motto.

    Never fails.

    If they can't afford it, they now (mercifully) can't buy it. Phew. That's my job done. ;)
  • Zelie
    Zelie Posts: 773 Forumite
    wibble68 wrote: »
    Yes, I think the penny has finally dropped.

    Most of my friends and family have been telling me for years
    that prices only every go up. I've been a great believer in boom
    and bust cycles, purely because these cycles are driven by greed.

    Now my friends and family have gone very quiet on the subject.
    I wouldn't lower myself to tell them "I told you so", but it would
    be nice if some of the people who told me that I was mad, and
    didn't know how the housing market worked, would admit to
    being wrong.

    Very poetic. :)

    (I assume you use notepad or similar to create posts. I always like the way those posts get formatted).
  • mr.broderick
    mr.broderick Posts: 3,778 Forumite
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    m00m00 wrote: »
    I've been using kubler ross comparisons on here for months :)


    this forum is alternating still between denial and anger as far as it's resident bulls are concerned.

    Yes i'm still angry my ronaldo thread was deleted...
  • mr.broderick
    mr.broderick Posts: 3,778 Forumite
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    carolt wrote: »
    Mercifully, for that still large percentage that believe house prices only ever go up, rescue from the consequences of their own folly has come in the shape of that unlikely knight - the Credit Crunch. Protecting People from Buying An Over-Priced Rabbit Hutch is his motto.

    Never fails.

    If they can't afford it, they now (mercifully) can't buy it. Phew. That's my job done. ;)


    Even with higher multiples of income lending it was still slightly based on the fact you could afford to pay it back.
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