Renting - "no children" discrimination

poppysarah

pulliptears wrote: »

Unfortunately not everyone can have this luxury, especially in inner cities. However, most people are not that far from parks and open spaces, so why on earth is it immoral!?

I have 250 ft of garden for my kids to run around in. Do they? No. They go off to the park and play football with their mates.

Maybe the UK is reaping the reward of not having this "luxury" in inner city areas.

How many play areas and parks have clean lawned areas where you can sit and play? How can you start the gentle process of letting your kids play outside on their own if the park is 5 minutes walk away?

There's nothing wrong with kids using communal play spaces but they're not ideal for very small children.

Are inner city areas with little outdoor space are at the heart of current youth problems?

Captain_Mainwaring_2

izzybusy23 wrote: »

What a complete idiotic response.

So you weren't a messy kid, who popped everywhere and drew on walls in your life previously???

People forget they were KIDS themselves... so to discriminate against them is disgusting.

Yes, but we weren't allowed to draw on the bloody walls, just as my children are not, and indeed have never attempted to.

Some people (in fact many people) seem to forget they are renting the quiet enjoyment of a property, not the right to smash it up.

You have just convinced more LL's to not accept children because of your shabby attitude.

Captain_Mainwaring_2

poppysarah wrote: »

Maybe the UK is reaping the reward of not having this "luxury" in inner city areas.

How many play areas and parks have clean lawned areas where you can sit and play? How can you start the gentle process of letting your kids play outside on their own if the park is 5 minutes walk away?

There's nothing wrong with kids using communal play spaces but they're not ideal for very small children.

Are inner city areas with little outdoor space are at the heart of current youth problems?

And of course it is 100% safe to let kids run in the street? Perhaps mum and dad cannot take them - are you saying open the door and just let them go?

Captain_Mainwaring_2

izzybusy23 wrote: »

Give it 12 months and these 'landlords' won't be able to be too choosy who they will and will not let their properties out.. with or without the kids discrimination.

I totally agree with you.. disgusting that our society let these so called 'professionals' get away with it.

Buy your own house then and exercise your rights all over the walls there. Until then, you just have to put up with it.

Disgusting the way that so called parents are allowed to let their kids run amok.

pulliptears

Captain_Mainwaring wrote: »

And of course it is 100% safe to let kids run in the street? Perhaps mum and dad cannot take them - are you saying open the door and just let them go?

Its as safe to let kids play in the street now as it was 30 years ago. Crime hasnt risen, only our perception of it.

I was out on the pavement playing hopscotch at 4, Im still alive. We had a tiny concrete yard, I hardly suffered for it.

izzybusy23

Captain_Mainwaring wrote: »

Yes, but we weren't allowed to draw on the bloody walls, just as my children are not, and indeed have never attempted to.

Some people (in fact many people) seem to forget they are renting the quiet enjoyment of a property, not the right to smash it up.

You have just convinced more LL's to not accept children because of your shabby attitude.

Whoever said I had a shabby attitude? I rent and have a 3 year old and I am totally committed to making sure that the house stays in an excellent condition the whole time we live there and would make right any decoration or damage etc. I value getting my deposit back!

I think its safe to say that there are the minority out there that will let their kids run riot, true, but people who moan on about what little blighters kids are were kids once themselves and forget that.

Kids do what kids do.. its the parents that are the problem by not keeping them in tow. Thats the difference.

izzybusy23

Captain_Mainwaring wrote: »

Buy your own house then and exercise your rights all over the walls there. Until then, you just have to put up with it.

* I will do, once the prices fall to a level I deem worthy and can easily afford the repayments. Until then I am quite happy to have 'quiet' enjoyment of my rental home

Disgusting the way that so called parents are allowed to let their kids run amok.

* I agree.. see my previous response. Its totally the parents fault for kids being unruly in this day and age. My mother was very strict and I remember those days like yesterday, hence my daughter being bought up to respect people and their belongings

I agree with you on most things.. see above

Captain_Mainwaring_2

izzybusy23 wrote: »

Whoever said I had a shabby attitude? I rent and have a 3 year old and I am totally committed to making sure that the house stays in an excellent condition the whole time we live there and would make right any decoration or damage etc. I value getting my deposit back!

I think its safe to say that there are the minority out there that will let their kids run riot, true, but people who moan on about what little blighters kids are were kids once themselves and forget that.

Kids do what kids do.. its the parents that are the problem by not keeping them in tow. Thats the difference.

I said you had a shabby attitude.

You seemed to think that a LL didn't have the right to refuse tenants with kids, and in the next breath said that kids draw on walls etc and oh well, that's the way it is.

The LL has the right, yes, the right to choose tenants who he believes won't cause him unnecessary heartache. If during the viewing or for whatever reason he perceives that the tenant/children may be trouble then he doesn't have to accept them.

It isn't the landlords concern who the problem may be.

Captain_Mainwaring_2

pulliptears wrote: »

Its as safe to let kids play in the street now as it was 30 years ago. Crime hasnt risen, only our perception of it.

I was out on the pavement playing hopscotch at 4, Im still alive. We had a tiny concrete yard, I hardly suffered for it.

Yes, so am I, though I wasn't allowed to come and go as I pleased. To leave a 4 year old outside unsupervised now would be in my opinion very negligent.

I wish I could agree with you that the UK was as safe as it was when I was a kid, and i'd suggest that there are many disgruntled people who think the same as me.

Do you let your kids play outside now?

Idiophreak

If I were a LL I guess I'd probably prefer to rent it to people without kids...Less likely to have crayon on the walls, sick on the sofa etc, less likely to have complaints from neighbours about screaming kids....It just sounds like less hassle to me.

I find it laughable that people call this "discrimination"....personally, as a teenager I was continually annoyed that pubs kept on "discriminating" against me by refusing to serve me beer because of my age...I think there's a line between "discrimination" and "common sense" - this is certainly that latter as far as I can see.

It's not just kids, either, my friends have been disallowed from renting flats because of their age and employment status - and we were certainly "no go" for many LLs as a bunch of students trying to rent. I don't recall complaining about it, though, LLs have a right to protect their properties as they see fit...banding about with claims of "discrimination" is just stupid.