Help for returning resident

Vicky123

I shouldn't worry about some of the irate people here, there is definitely a little group that come here to make things difficult for people, perhaps their way of redressing the balance if anyone has anything off the state that they themselves don't get for whatever reason, ignore them.
Hopefully you will get everything sorted out.
Vicky

krisskross

Vicky123 wrote: »

I shouldn't worry about some of the irate people here, there is definitely a little group that come here to make things difficult for people, perhaps their way of redressing the balance if anyone has anything off the state that they themselves don't get for whatever reason, ignore them.
Hopefully you will get everything sorted out.
Vicky

It isn't the State, it is the taxpayer!!!! Where do you think the money comes from?

You see unlike the OP we have worked and saved for many decades to ensure a reasonable, though certainly not affluent retirement. So what happens? We are still taxpayers having to pay to help out people like the OP who has skulked out of the country for most of his working life, thus contributing very little but now comes back because he needs stuff he can't afford because he hasn't saved enough. I think at £10K a year he has probably already recouped every penny paid in.

I have always been prepared to pay my dues, didn't go to live anywhere else until I retired. Bet the OP thinks he has the deal of the century.

terryw

I am having difficulty in understanding all of this. The OP is receiving over £10000 per year in benefits and has a working partner's wages coming into the household. Have I understood this properly?

NASA_2

terryw wrote: »

I am having difficulty in understanding all of this. The OP is receiving over £10000 per year in benefits and has a working partner's wages coming into the household. Have I understood this properly?

Does seem strange.

seven-day-weekend

krisskross wrote: »

It isn't the State, it is the taxpayer!!!! Where do you think the money comes from?

You see unlike the OP we have worked and saved for many decades to ensure a reasonable, though certainly not affluent retirement. So what happens? We are still taxpayers having to pay to help out people like the OP who has skulked out of the country for most of his working life, thus contributing very little but now comes back because he needs stuff he can't afford because he hasn't saved enough. I think at £10K a year he has probably already recouped every penny paid in.

I have always been prepared to pay my dues, didn't go to live anywhere else until I retired. Bet the OP thinks he has the deal of the century.

The OP has paid his NI, krisskross, so he is entitled to draw a State Pension . I have paid two years of Voluntary (class 3) NI myself whilst abroad so that I get my full Pension entitlement (I also have 24 years paid through working and 13 years HRP!). My husband is still a taxpayer to the UK too.

The OP has been treated the same as anyone else; I don't quite know why he is so upset about it - afaik paying NI when living abroad has never entitled you to NHS treatment in the UK.

terryw

beanjay1 wrote: »

How then can it be that “There is not now and has never been a connection between paying NI and entitlement to NHS treatment.” Perhaps I misunderstood Mr Beven when he introduced the NHS in 1948. I could have sworn that he said it would be funded out of these contributions. I had a NHS card that showed that I was entitled to this benefit as a contributor not as a UK resident.

I fear that this part of your argument is a bit of a non-starter. Yes, the NHS is funded by NI contributions but there is no connection whatsoever between the the payment of NI contibutions and the right to NHS treatment. Many groups of people have never paid NI contributions but are still perfectly entitled to NHS treatment.
For claiming certain cash benefits, the NI contribution history is important.

Vicky123

OK KrissKross the tax payer then, didn't realise we had to be so pedantic.
I doubt though that 10k is considered the deal of the century by the OP but perhaps he will come back and let us know.
What is it people expect OP to do though?
Vicky

seven-day-weekend

The right to NHS treatment depends upon RESIDENCY not contributions.

http://www.firststopcareadvice.org.uk/downloads/resources/1873.pdf
See section 15.5 of the above link

real1314

beanjay1 wrote: »

Hello calleyw.
All official government documents related to benefits clams contain the following somewhere: “How much the law says you need to live on. For you (and your partner where applicable) £215.50”. That is per week. (Sorry, my mistake, that is only £11,206 a year not £11,672!) You can confirm this at your local Council offices.

The key word in that quote is "you" - the amount is the what YOU are deemed to need to live on. That figure applies to a couple where one of the couple is over 65 I think, although it might be where one is over 60.

For any couple under 60 the amount is about £100 per week.

krisskross

seven-day-weekend wrote: »

The OP has paid his NI, krisskross, so he is entitled to draw a State Pension . I have paid two years of Voluntary (class 3) NI myself whilst abroad so that I get my full Pension entitlement (I also have 24 years paid through working and 13 years HRP!). My husband is still a taxpayer to the UK too.

The OP has been treated the same as anyone else; I don't quite know why he is so upset about it - afaik paying NI when living abroad has never entitled you to NHS treatment in the UK.

But I bet you have paid more than £2 a week, which is the max this guy will have paid as self employed 2nd class contributions or whatever they are called. Doesn't actually matter though if he hadn't paid a single sou, he would just be getting more pension credit. The end result is certainly the same amount of tax free income. So how come he can have £10K tax free but I have to pay tax on my hard earned little bit over £10K?

I simply wish he had a tad more appreciation for the country that has welcomed him back and laid the benefit table for him to fill his boots from.