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Departure Form

Anyone filled on of these out and any tips? Bearing in mind I live in Scotland and muppet features is down in England so can't nip round to take any incriminating pictures...

Thanks muchly :)
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  • Loopy_Girl
    Loopy_Girl Posts: 4,444 Forumite
    Sneaky wee bump...no one done one? Just tried to have a look but it is like war and peace and I am a few glasses of Rose in!!!!
  • NACSA_CHAIR
    NACSA_CHAIR Posts: 200 Forumite
    what is it that you are applying for?
  • Loopy_Girl
    Loopy_Girl Posts: 4,444 Forumite
    The fact that my ex has submitted to the CSA that he is living on a ridiculously low wage which is meant to sustain 2 adults and 1 child living in his home. Whilst I am not denying they have it in black and white, I work 25 hours a week and I earn more than he is claiming!!

    I'm just not sure how to get my point across and I am not entirely sure of his emplyoment status now (emp or s/e). I don't just want it to appear as a knee jerk reaction to a nil assessment.

    p.s - thanks for replying :)
  • Kimitatsu
    Kimitatsu Posts: 3,886 Forumite
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    I have done one of these and to be honest be prepared to be turned down!

    I went through the whole variation form, filled it out, gave them details as much as I could and was told by the appeals officer that he had given them all the details (in the form of unaudited accounts - not signed as authorised by any third party!) after several months of chasing around. They told me that they could see what he was doing but their hands were tied and the only thing I could do was to take it to a tribunal, but my best chances were to get photographic evidence and third party proof that his lifestyle was inconsistent with his income.

    I realise that it may be an outlay to begin with but it might be worth investigating in a private detective or a mate with a camera and pay the train ticket.

    Good luck because mine is still rumbling on, but there is hope, Kellogs got hers after 7 years, but was awarded a large amount that was backdated!
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  • Loopy_Girl
    Loopy_Girl Posts: 4,444 Forumite
    Thank you...food for thought there :)

    (all very Mission Impossible eh?!!!!!):):)
  • Cassie42_2
    Cassie42_2 Posts: 21 Forumite
    is this a csa form? when u get like nil assessments or £5 a week assessments and the lifestyle appears to be so different?
  • Loopy_Girl
    Loopy_Girl Posts: 4,444 Forumite
    Yes.

    My ex is claiming to earn a ridiculously low amount of money which is meant to be maintaining 2 adults and 1 child and as such, my assessment has dropped from £70.00pw to nil
  • frugallass
    frugallass Posts: 2,320 Forumite
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    Loopy Girl - we have very similar circumstances, my ex is in England and I'm in Scotland. He states he earns £201 a week and manages to pay for a relatively new car, mortgage on 3 bed house, holidays abroad and look after his girlfriend and her kids - he also smokes, drinks in the pub (to excess quite regularly) and plays golf.

    CSA told me to gather evidence but how the hell is that possible when he is 250 miles away?

    Maybe we should join forces, you spy on my ex and I'll spy on yours :rotfl:

    I've not had a departure form (yet) but let us know how you get on.
  • Loopy_Girl
    Loopy_Girl Posts: 4,444 Forumite
    frugallass wrote: »
    Maybe we should join forces, you spy on my ex and I'll spy on yours :rotfl:

    :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: That's not a bad idea!!!!!!! Have had a look at the form and there is a section for 'lifestyle not consistent' so am just going to have to put down as much as I can.

    It just bloody annoys me though. :mad: How come in this country you can report someone for benefit fraud or tax evasion and the relevant agencies do the investigative work but if it's CSA evasion, the other party is meant to do all the donkey work and gain all the evidence? Why aren't the CSA asking for bank statements so they can question how a mortgage, loans, utilitie bills etc manage to get paid on such a poor amount (btw, my ex is claiming to earn even less that yours!!!):confused:

    Okay, rant over!!:rotfl: :rotfl:
  • frugallass
    frugallass Posts: 2,320 Forumite
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    It is annoying and there is no help in place for those of us who are too far away to go poking in ex's bins - when the CSA told me I had to prove that he was earning more than he claimed I asked what was 'acceptable proof' - they couldn't tell me

    So, even if I managed to find a bank statement in the wheelie bin, and even if I managed to get a photo of him on his first class flight to the Dominican Republic, it still might not be good enough proof for the CSA !

    Loopy Girl - whereabouts in England is your ex?
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