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4 hours free parking but 10 minutes over!

suzewuze
suzewuze Posts: 14 Forumite
in Parking tickets, fines & parking
Got a ticket today issued 4 hours and 11 minutes after I drove into the carpark (UKPC). Parked right next to a sign that was not eye level but placed at the top of a pole. I only saw it after I got the ticket as getting two toddlers out of a car, strangely my focus is more about their safety than scanning the carpark for terms and conditions in tiny writing.

Aaaaanyhoo....it stated maximum stay 4 hours free parking, no pay and display option. So. Retail park + two toddlers does not make for a quick trip. Had I even envisaged staying longer than four hours there was no option to buy a ticket anyway. Feeding, changing nappies and looking for new furniture for my new house apparently takes 4 hours and 49 minutes :) They pezzled me after 4 hours 11 minutes.

So I've seen lots of advice about ignoring, and lots about appealing. Which do I do?? Seriously. I don't want to pay, and I don't want to risk them making an example of me and going to court.:(
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  • Stroma
    Stroma Posts: 7,971 Forumite
    Uniform Washer
    They won't make an example of you as these idiots don't do court, and even if they did it would very easily be defended, going to the small claims doesn't instantly mean they'd win, they would have many things to overcome once a proper defence is submitted.

    But that besides you have a few options

    1) pay the scammers
    2) appeal to the scammers, and if rejected go to popla
    3) ignore the scammers

    Obviously first one shouldn't be done, otherwise why come here? Second is an option if in England or Wales only, if rejected go with our help to the independent appeals called popla. Or just ignore with very little chance of going to court, you just ignore templated letters.
    When posting a parking issue on MSE do not reveal any information that may enable PPCs to identify you. They DO monitor the forum.
    We don't need the following to help you.
    Name, Address, PCN Number, Exact Date Of Incident, Date On Invoice, Reg Number, Vehicle Picture, The Time You Entered & Left Car Park, Or The Amount of Time You Overstayed.
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  • Coupon-mad
    Coupon-mad Posts: 150,678 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 10,000 Posts Name Dropper Photogenic
    edited 19 May 2013 at 11:50PM
    suzewuze wrote: »
    Got a ticket today issued 4 hours and 11 minutes after I drove into the carpark (UKPC). Parked right next to a sign that was not eye level but placed at the top of a pole. I only saw it after I got the ticket as getting two toddlers out of a car, strangely my focus is more about their safety than scanning the carpark for terms and conditions in tiny writing.

    Aaaaanyhoo....it stated maximum stay 4 hours free parking, no pay and display option. So. Retail park + two toddlers does not make for a quick trip. Had I even envisaged staying longer than four hours there was no option to buy a ticket anyway. Feeding, changing nappies and looking for new furniture for my new house apparently takes 4 hours and 49 minutes :) They pezzled me after 4 hours 11 minutes.

    So I've seen lots of advice about ignoring, and lots about appealing. Which do I do?? Seriously. I don't want to pay, and I don't want to risk them making an example of me and going to court.:(



    As long as this wasn't in Scotland or NI where there is no POPLA appeal, and as long as this is your car not a hire/lease/company vehicle, I would recommend waiting for them to write the first letter (for lots of good reasons just wait!). Keep the envelope when they do send you the Notice to Keeper, if it shows they sent it on a later date that the date on the Notice (more sharp practice and worth including in your POPLA appeal).

    Then use the appeal option and then win at POPLA with our help.

    Is one baby so young that you're still feeding him/her yourself?! Sorry to ask such an up-front question but, if so, you're covered by the Equality Act 2010 and they'll have broken the law if they don't cancel once you tell them, once you get the Notice to Keeper.

    Let us know when that arrives.
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  • suzewuze
    suzewuze Posts: 14 Forumite
    Unfortunately she stopped feeding at 13m, my friend got a ticket while sat in the car breast feeding her baby!! He actually stood and waited for her to pay. This was a few years ago though.

    I get what you're saying about waiting. Will they actually send me a letter? How can they get my address??
  • suzewuze
    suzewuze Posts: 14 Forumite
    How do you get my address to send the letters out?
  • bondy_lad
    bondy_lad Posts: 1,001 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture Combo Breaker
    they pay the dvla £2-50 for your details,dont worry as its a scam,take advice given to you by previous posters,,a genuine ticket is called a PENALTY charge notice,you DO NOT have this.relax.
  • Coupon-mad
    Coupon-mad Posts: 150,678 Forumite
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    suzewuze wrote: »
    How do you get my address to send the letters out?


    https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/comment/56410307#Comment_56410307


    HTH, just wait.
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  • suzewuze
    suzewuze Posts: 14 Forumite
    I've just moved out, the Dvla doesn't have my new address yet anyway, but when I move into my new address they will. I'm hoping I might slip through their net!
  • Coupon-mad
    Coupon-mad Posts: 150,678 Forumite
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    suzewuze wrote: »
    I've just moved out, the Dvla doesn't have my new address yet anyway, but when I move into my new address they will. I'm hoping I might slip through their net!


    That's a bit naïve and you need to tell the DVLA your new addy asap.
    PRIVATE 'PCN'? DON'T PAY BUT DON'T IGNORE IT (except N.Ireland).
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  • forgotmyname
    forgotmyname Posts: 32,901 Forumite
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    Risk a £1000 fine to not pay an invoice?

    Change your details and just ignore as suggested.
    Censorship Reigns Supreme in Troll City...

  • suzewuze
    suzewuze Posts: 14 Forumite
    Noon I mean I haven't actually moved into my new address yet!! I'm just bunking at my mam's for a few weeks! I know I have to tell the Dvla when I move! :)
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