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December Debt Destruction!!!
28-11-2012, 12:22 AM
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WOW!!!! What a challenge!  /  (at the same time)
Some of it I have been doing on/off for years...spending diary, money tin...there must be more I am sure...
Not doing secret santa this year (decided today at work)...not need any toiletries in the month of December (or much longer)...can do homeless people any time, it just tickled me(wanting to do this for a very long time out of feeling very lucky to have a roof over my head/food/work/?money/smile and warm heart to make these people a bit special and also noticed), so a good one KAT  . I think I can do all of those bullet points, better print them out  so I won't forget.
I want to start baking (mainly bread as I can only eat gluten free stuff), but I have no baking tins or other baking equipment. I need to buy them on my SD and budget for it first. Not sure if the home made bread works out cheeper than the one from any supermarket. Any idea/experience on this one anybody? 
No Xmas presents this year, my family is a sensible one and I won't see them until after Xmas/New year anyway. If I go shopping I have the vouchers/gift cards to spend so it should not break my account. 
So Kat, count me in.    
NSD Nov 20/20 Dec 13/20 March 12/15 Apr 8/20 AFNM#37 DMP started 2/2007 DMP Mutual support #136 DFD July 2013 May 2024 Oct 2017 Feb 2017  still hoping to be sooner
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28-11-2012, 12:23 AM
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Sign me up!
I'm here and ready to rumble!!
Pretty please can I have a number?
Sholly x
DFW and MFW  Debt as of 08th March 2013: £6,843.83 £4,500.00 Debt free target: Christmas 2013 Daily debt reduction required: £ Mortgage-free target: 30.06.18 (currently £71,100)
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28-11-2012, 12:26 AM
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I was going to join in with this to give myself a good kick up the butt,however we just moved house, are still in the process of moving furniture etc,have no idea what the diesel will be like as we moved across town,have 6 kids and various appointments, work evenings so no way am I walking in the dark and not even started on any shopping as first I have my Mum's birthday(Dec 1st) and also my daughter's (Dec 19th).I only buy for the kids and my sister and my parents so can't cut any of those out unless I want to upset/offend them. Sigh. I'll be following the thread with interest though and will try to follow some of the rules unofficially.Good luck all of you.
Debts Nov 2012
dwp513.27,vanquis 2963.24,simply be 2082.98,very 3945.10,gas & elec debt 312.74,carpets 700
DFD-as soon as possible
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28-11-2012, 12:38 AM
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Hello Toomuchdebt  ,
You can always join in later once you have settled in your new house/area and know the prices and routine. Doing any of those challenges give you more control of your spending and also you are more aware of where the money goes. So good luck to you too with all of that+the house/furniture move  .
t&j
NSD Nov 20/20 Dec 13/20 March 12/15 Apr 8/20 AFNM#37 DMP started 2/2007 DMP Mutual support #136 DFD July 2013 May 2024 Oct 2017 Feb 2017  still hoping to be sooner
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28-11-2012, 5:39 AM
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TooMuchDebt.. You just need to over-budget for a few things? Anything left over is a win for you! I'm just "suggesting" walking instead of petrol usage..I'm sure I said 'where possible'.. The food budget can be what you want it to be? What other excuses have you got?
This is hard to accommodate for everyone Rising! If you use a walking stick clearly the walking part won't include you.. We're to use our common sense to a degree. It's aiming at people ( like an acquaintance of mine ) who takes the car to the shop that's less than 5 minutes from her house?? That's not normal!!
It's difficult to co-ordinate a challenge of this magnitude for everyone... Should I tell people to omit three-four they can't manage?? Maybe that's the way forward..
Total owed @ LBM £16600 Oct 2012 / Now @ £7345
MayTheForceBeWithYou = # 1. SFD = 17 April Food = £80 / £57.94
I Will Make £300 on eBay This Month!!! = £110.50
I will be debt free in 2013 if it kills me, and I think it just might!
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28-11-2012, 6:46 AM
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Count me in too NK. I need this to keep me away on the sales and buying random crap!
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28-11-2012, 6:48 AM
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I'd like to sign up for December too please x
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28-11-2012, 7:06 AM
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please count me in . i want to clear my debts by the end of 2013 and this would get me of to a good start. i do get carried away during december with my spending so you will help me to keep control.
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28-11-2012, 7:53 AM
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Another great challenge ~ Good luck to everyone signing up
Looking at the link for the Money tins, the tin for reciepts - 'reciepts for money i used to have' made me giggle
Its already been pointed out you can buy these at £land, B&M ect, but you could also make your own sealed pot by gaffa taping a pringles pot, celebrations tin or whatever pot, so its sealed, and then decorate the tin as you wish  and the money you save by doing this can be the first to hit the bottom of the pot
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28-11-2012, 8:02 AM
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Yay, DDD is here!!!
Put me down please Kat
May Food Budget: Week 1= £48.22/£60. Week 2 £55.72/£60. Week 3= £48.04/£60. Week 4= £0/£60.
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28-11-2012, 8:07 AM
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I think I'd like to join - eek its frightening!!!! Will print off the list and review at lunchtime. I kept dipping in and out of the NOvember thread thinking it was complete madness but here you guys are! 20 NSDs seems much more manageable!
We have just moved and are in the process of renovating our kitchen - will need to be more organised! What I find is I'm constatly thinking on a "what do I need for today and tomorrow" basis and need to take a month long view!
anyway ramblings
VSP- £172.44
MayNSDs 1/12 May GC £102.46/£140 Debt to Bank of oh Mum: £1000/£5000
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28-11-2012, 8:13 AM
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Ooh overbudgeting-that's a good idea.I didn't think of that...let me read the rules again and see if I think I can do it.
Debts Nov 2012
dwp513.27,vanquis 2963.24,simply be 2082.98,very 3945.10,gas & elec debt 312.74,carpets 700
DFD-as soon as possible
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28-11-2012, 8:22 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Toomuchdebt
Ooh overbudgeting-that's a good idea.I didn't think of that...let me read the rules again and see if I think I can do it.
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Join join join join join join  
Total owed @ LBM £16600 Oct 2012 / Now @ £7345
MayTheForceBeWithYou = # 1. SFD = 17 April Food = £80 / £57.94
I Will Make £300 on eBay This Month!!! = £110.50
I will be debt free in 2013 if it kills me, and I think it just might!
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28-11-2012, 8:39 AM
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I would like to join please
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28-11-2012, 8:59 AM
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Originally Posted by Toomuchdebt
Ooh overbudgeting-that's a good idea.I didn't think of that...let me read the rules again and see if I think I can do it.
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Surely over-budgeting in both budget spends and planned days would defeat the object of the challenge?
Say your grocery bill is usually £200 then, according to the rules, it should reduce to £170 but ... if you over budget it to £230 & reduce to £200 .... then you've technically met the rules of the challenge but you've not actually achieved any reduction......
What would be the point in doing the challenge!
2013: the year of needs - not wants .... and getting my health back
VSP #3 £42.82 SS 12/10/12
Groceries: Annual £655.88/£1680 May £4.27/£130
Coins 20p#12 £9.80 50p#5 £23.00 £2#18 £44 Bus £54/£54
Emergency Fund £125/£500 Rainy Day £24 Boiler £425/£1500
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28-11-2012, 9:13 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by rising from the ashes
Surely over-budgeting in both budget spends and planned days would defeat the object of the challenge?
Say your grocery bill is usually £200 then, according to the rules, it should reduce to £170 but ... if you over budget it to £230 & reduce to £200 .... then you've technically met the rules of the challenge but you've not actually achieved any reduction......
What would be the point in doing the challenge!
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The point of doing the challenge is to have a budget as to having none at all and thinking about where money goes and taking note rather than just spending blindly. If this is not for you don't take part, simples. As Kat said you have to make allowances for personal circumstances, Kat is no Dictator. Some rules don't apply to everybody. I can't cut out 5 people for christmas as I only buy (bought) for three and the rest get HM stuff that I already have in the house. Etc etc etc
Debt Prevention Mission £1170/£8000 (14.6%) by 30/08/14
Mortgage 2011 £128500/119995 left to pay till 2034
"Every accomplishment starts with the decision to try"
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28-11-2012, 9:29 AM
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Originally Posted by thriftylass
As Kat said you have to make allowances for personal circumstances, Kat is no Dictator. Some rules don't apply to everybody.
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That was my reason for originally saying that I couldn't unfortunately meet some of them ......
As had already been asked by that point:
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Originally Posted by Determined diva
Are you executing us to comply with all the bullet points ( I know that's impossible for me!) or pick 3 of them say?
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Originally Posted by NinjaSavingKat
Please tell me you are joking?
Yes all please...
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From the above - it certainly doesn't appear that some are optional!
2013: the year of needs - not wants .... and getting my health back
VSP #3 £42.82 SS 12/10/12
Groceries: Annual £655.88/£1680 May £4.27/£130
Coins 20p#12 £9.80 50p#5 £23.00 £2#18 £44 Bus £54/£54
Emergency Fund £125/£500 Rainy Day £24 Boiler £425/£1500
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28-11-2012, 9:34 AM
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Hi All.
I would love to join in please and have been following the November thread with interest. I will work out my budgets and pop back and introduce myself properly later as I have to dash off to work now.
Have a great day x
May the force be with you! 0/21 NSD, 0/150 groc, 0/85 fuel, 0/100 Ebay
Weight loss since Jan 12 16lb.
"Save 12,000 in 2013" £0/2000 - hmm not going well!
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28-11-2012, 9:39 AM
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Sorry long post, but here's my plan. NSK let me know if I need to tweak sth. Cheers
• Minimum 20 NSD. Please pledge this on the NSD board, do not do this on this thread. WILL DO
• 6 X 20 MINUTE SESSION OF EXERCISE A WEEK. NO PROBLEM
• Food budget must decided upon before the commencement of this challenge then slashed by £30. I am assuming you have started Christmas food shopping and won’t need too much more – yes? Not Really started yet as that wasn’t possible in NOvember but I’ll keep my food budget from last month and will make do with that including Christmas food (and I have to feed FIL, parents, BF and DS for a week around christmas). Plan on £220 again but trying to remain £30 under
• “Spend” Money for anything else needs to be pre-agreed prior to the commencement of DDD. This includes last minute gifts, parties, food that’s to be taken to any party, and alcoholic drinks. £150 as I have 5 outings (lunch, dinner) that I can’t get out of and need a few stocking fillers. Trying to stay well under that though.
• No foods are to be purchased at work canteens / cafes etc. Ok
• All money needed for the month for food or spends is to be withdrawn and placed in envelopes clearly marked for purpose. Will have to be virtual envelopes as I can’t withdraw that much or done weekly
• 3 Wildcard Days are allowed. 10 spend days should be fine
• On one of your NSD’s find a homeless person and buy him/her a tea / coffee out of your budget. Don’t assume either, talk to the person and ask what they prefer. I’ll try to find one
• NO Beauty spends for the ladies over £5. Don’t do beauty spends Got the hairdresser but that money is saved from this month
• NO extra beer for the boys at all. If it’s in your house drink it, then start on the soft drinks. No problem
• Set a petrol allowance and stick to it. Taking the bus/bike anyway, too far to walk
• Those that completed NOvember get rid of what is in your cupboards before buying Christmas supplies. Yep
• Call 5 friends / family members / acquaintances / work colleague / virtual stranger’s – and tell them you will not be buying gifts this year. Only buy/bought for parents, BF and son. The rest get HM hampers with cupboard ingredients like cookies or HM limoncello, which is infusing as we speak and paid for
• DO NOT enter any secret Santa at work or anywhere else. Don’t do them anyway
• Batch cook now, try to avoid massive tins of sweets, fancy biscuits in expensive tins and £7 cakes from M&S. Yep
• Down-shift some “essentials” to Supermarket Own Brands…get the family used to it now!!! Already done
• NO ENTRY to any sales in the month of DDD. Don’t do shopping 
• Buy one of these. Start filling it. You will not be given access for 1 year. Once its full you start another one. Can’t as I don’t have another spend day left in November , but I got a box that I use
http://www.amazon.co.uk/s/ref=nb_sb_...rds=money+tins
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28-11-2012, 9:47 AM
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Hi Kat,
wow those rules are going to take some remembering. Going to print them out like others have said.
I think 90% of them will be ok to stick to, a few tricky ones there but will try my hardest.
I am treating Christmas dinner like a normal sunday roast. If I think like that, it will hopefully stop me convincing myself that I need two trolleys worth of food, like previous Christmas's.
Thankfully this year, we only have my mother over, and she is abit doo-lally so she won't notice if its a budget Christmas.
I think the tricky bit is all the Cheese and crackers I convince myself I need. Speciality cheeses are very expensive. going to have a think about that.
Count me in though....Thanks KAt, you are just what we need
TomandJerry - Not sure how much Gluten free flour costs compared to normal Strong bread flour, but I have been making my own bread and it works about about 40p per loaf. And thats a large one using 550g of flour.
So well worth doing it. You don't really need any equipment.
Just flour, yeast, salt, sugar, butter & water. knead, shape into a round mound on a baking tray, leave to rise and bake.
Ok you will not have the conventional square shaped sandwiches, but who likes to be conventional  .
Go for it xxx
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