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    • Coulrophobia
    • By Coulrophobia 15th Jun 12, 5:06 PM
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    Coulrophobia
    Company offering to get Council tax reduced.
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    • 15th Jun 12, 5:06 PM
    Company offering to get Council tax reduced. 15th Jun 12 at 5:06 PM
    Out of the blue today we had a phone call from a company called Dalton and Dalton, tax consultants. During the call they said that our house was wrongly banded and that they could get us a reduction. the figure they are talking about is in the region of £3,000 (total added up over 19 years). when asked why they had contacted us they said that they had about 40 neighbours signed up [TEXT DELETED BY FORUM TEAM].

    All the houses on the road are banded B on the yougov website.

    [TEXT DELETED BY FORUM TEAM] It seems that they have 'someone in the area on Monday'

    Has anyone else ever come across this kind of thing?
    Last edited by MSE Investigator; 06-08-2012 at 4:47 PM. Reason: Pending investigation
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    • CIS
    • By CIS 15th Jun 12, 5:42 PM
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    • 15th Jun 12, 5:42 PM
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    • 15th Jun 12, 5:42 PM
    [TEXT DELETED BY FORUM TEAM]

    [TEXT DELETED BY FORUM TEAM] the actual process of re-valuing a property is free as its part of the valuations office statutory duty.

    These companies charge you to for contacting the Valuation Office - you can do this yourself for free.- http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/HomeAndCommunity/YourlocalcouncilandCouncilTax/CouncilTax/DG_10037383
    Last edited by MSE Investigator; 06-08-2012 at 4:47 PM. Reason: Pending investigation
    I work in Council Tax Recovery however my views are my own reading of the law and you should always check with the local authority in question.
  • skorpio
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    • 22nd Jun 12, 4:34 PM
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    • 22nd Jun 12, 4:34 PM
    Agree with CIS. Do it yourself and you'll keep every penny of the overpayment.
    • Coulrophobia
    • By Coulrophobia 27th Jun 12, 4:23 PM
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    • 27th Jun 12, 4:23 PM
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    • 27th Jun 12, 4:23 PM
    Thanks for replying.

    The company never did get in touch again anyway.
  • thewad
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    • 5th Jul 12, 11:49 AM
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    • 5th Jul 12, 11:49 AM
    I signed up with MSD on a 50/50 deal as I was lead to believe if I lost the appeal it would cost me £100's in court costs. The money, they said , would be used to pay "specialist council tax claims solicitors" lol.
    I got the letter from the council yesterday saying I had been successful and the money is on its way.
    I now find that the appeal process is free and am thinking of not paying them as I believe it's misrepresentation.
    My next door neighbour got her money 2 weeks ago and as so far refused to pay them so also awaiting further news from her.
    What's my standing on this?

    John
    If God didn't want us to eat animals, why did he make them out of meat.
    • CIS
    • By CIS 5th Jul 12, 5:23 PM
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    • 5th Jul 12, 5:23 PM
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    • 5th Jul 12, 5:23 PM
    What's my standing on this?
    If you can prove they mis-led you then tell then to go and stuff themselves and you'll see them in a court if they wish to pursue it via civil action.
    I work in Council Tax Recovery however my views are my own reading of the law and you should always check with the local authority in question.
  • thewad
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    • 5th Jul 12, 5:57 PM
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    • 5th Jul 12, 5:57 PM
    My thoughts exactly.
    If God didn't want us to eat animals, why did he make them out of meat.
  • AndySte101
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    • 3rd Aug 12, 5:28 PM
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    • 3rd Aug 12, 5:28 PM
    i want to get my house rebanded, i do actually think my house is in the wrong tax band. I have contacted my local council who said that its not them that deals with it but the Valuation office that does. i have passed them my details as they said they will sort out. Il keep u all posted
  • thewad
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    • 2nd Sep 12, 7:50 PM
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    • 2nd Sep 12, 7:50 PM
    How do you prove something like that.
    I've written to the relevant Trading Standards office and they confirmed that they are making enquiries into their trading practices.
    Filled in the form they sent me as well but still waiting for a reply.
    If God didn't want us to eat animals, why did he make them out of meat.
    • peter percent
    • By peter percent 16th Sep 12, 10:56 PM
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    peter percent
    Out of the blue today we had a phone call from a company called Dalton and Dalton, tax consultants. During the call they said that our house was wrongly banded and that they could get us a reduction. the figure they are talking about is in the region of £3,000 (total added up over 19 years). when asked why they had contacted us they said that they had about 40 neighbours signed up [TEXT DELETED BY FORUM TEAM].

    All the houses on the road are banded B on the yougov website.

    [TEXT DELETED BY FORUM TEAM] It seems that they have 'someone in the area on Monday'

    Has anyone else ever come across this kind of thing?
    Originally posted by Coulrophobia
    I had a cold call and got them roumd, they confirmed the appointment in the morning, then turned up half an hour late because he had been "busy", I felt like telling him that" I am busy now you have missed the appointment" nothing angers me more than people thinking that their time is somehow more valuable than mine, however I let him go through his routine not inside my house after all this was the result of a cold call and his car was well past it's best, not what you would expect from a tax expert who has a nationwide network of lawyers at his disposal,!! but in my front garden, in front of my CCtv camera, he had several laminated sheets of examples and mentioned Martin Lewis and this site several times, I found his info contradictory, he told me three other neighbours had signed up, I only have six and know them all so I asked them, it was untrue or they are telling lies, A look at the web site makes it worse, it looks like it is made with one of those freebe programs with stock pictures that have no links,some cut and paste stuff, a link to a free map page, little company info no history and a laughable blog/faq page that goes nowhere, a search for the word "tax" turns up no results!!!!!, A google street view, of the address shows up a backstreet multi rented office doorway.
    I was neither impressed or convinced
  • poet123
    Does anyone have any more info on this? My elderly MIL has apparently paid £150 upfront to this company and has signed a contract with them which says that she will give them 25% of anything reclaimed. She is 78 and we feel this is preying on the elderly.
    • thacky
    • By thacky 10th Oct 12, 10:44 AM
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    This very same company has been pestering my 86 year old mother and persuaded her to accept an appointment. Luckily I found out in time and was able to be with her. 'Courtesy call' came before the appointment time so they got a full blast from me.

    My mother had a sleepless night worrying about this (she's confused anyway and my Dad died only a few weeks ago) and so did I, not from worrying but from anger about what they were putting her through.

    My Mum is TPS registered but when challenged about this they suggested she couldn't be or they would not have called. Rubbish, of course.

    Scum of the earth.
  • Council good
    On google I typed the name of the company and voa together it shows them and 22 other companies as agents.
    Also on the home page of the valuation agency it has agent guidelines it seems its not as simple as a phone call to have your band reduced.

    I have followed mse instructions and the valuation office told me they don't accept Internet indices. Someone please help

    How do I get the evidence mr Wilson at the valuation office based in manchester told me my band won't get reduced as what I sent is a joke. My next door neighbour exactly the same semi detached is paying less than me. This is frustrating please help
  • flying framer
    Thanks to all above. Just had the phone call from some pushy salesman at DALTON .... pestered like mad to make appointment for tomorrow. When I asked him his surname he refused to give it. They should do well in my road 11 spinsters all over 70 years, just hope I can print this out and deliver it to all the houses before these rouges get there first.
  • tonitarzan
    We got our £6200 council tax rebate in January this year. Its fair if theseguys charge a fee, at the end of the day its business and if it wasn't for Dalton and Dalton tax people, I wouldn't have known that all these years wewere paying more council tax than our neighbours.
    Last edited by tonitarzan; 01-05-2013 at 7:17 PM.
    • lincroft1710
    • By lincroft1710 2nd May 13, 2:19 PM
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    lincroft1710
    We got our £6200 council tax rebate in January this year. Its fair if theseguys charge a fee, at the end of the day its business and if it wasn't for Dalton and Dalton tax people, I wouldn't have known that all these years wewere paying more council tax than our neighbours.
    Originally posted by tonitarzan
    It's a pity you hadn't been a MSE member before you engaged D and D, you would have then read how to get your CT band reduced for free.
  • tonitarzan
    tbh I wouldnt have known, you dont look into things unless you get into it.. I would advice people that if they dont want to go with these companies then do look into it when they ring you, may you can claim the amount yourself, just cut the middleman. The only good thing about these comapnies is that they deal with allthe paperwork
    • lincroft1710
    • By lincroft1710 13th Jun 13, 5:03 PM
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    There is very little paperwork!

    Either a simple letter or even a telephone call to the VOA.
    • Ricky43
    • By Ricky43 14th Jun 13, 12:49 PM
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    Ricky43
    Dalton and Dalton
    I have just had a cold phone call from Dalton and Dalton. I said I would find out all about it before I would let them come to my house. I wa impressed that they gave me a phone number and their website. From the information in this thread I went to the VOA site and found that all my neighbours are in the same tax band so what chance it should be lower. We are tax band E for the semi's in the road - others , I presume the detached are in F. Does anyone reckon it is even worth pursuing this with the VOA?
  • _Andy_
    " I wa impressed that they gave me a phone number and their website."

    How is that remotely impressive?
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