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    julianj1
    Energy Cost of a bread machine
    • #1
    • 5th Dec 06, 3:25 PM
    Energy Cost of a bread machine 5th Dec 06 at 3:25 PM
    Hi all,

    I've been monitoring the cost of my bread machine's electricity
    (Panasonic SD253).

    Overall it costs about 1 p an hour to run: slightly less for just the dough programme and slightly more when it's baking. So 1 p an hour is a good approximation.

    Ingredients for a 400g wholemeal loaf were 32p, so with 6 p for electricity, round up to 40p.

    I would expect other breadmakers to be in the same ballpark.

    Which conclusively proves that using a breadmaker is cheaper than any but the most cheapo and nasty bread.
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  • mikeywills
    • #2
    • 5th Dec 06, 3:58 PM
    • #2
    • 5th Dec 06, 3:58 PM
    Hi all,

    I've been monitoring the cost of my bread machine's electricity
    (Panasonic SD253).

    Overall it costs about 1 p an hour to run: slightly less for just the dough programme and slightly more when it's baking. So 1 p an hour is a good approximation.

    Ingredients for a 400g wholemeal loaf were 32p, so with 6 p for electricity, round up to 40p.

    I would expect other breadmakers to be in the same ballpark.

    Which conclusively proves that using a breadmaker is cheaper than any but the most cheapo and nasty bread.
    by julianj1
    I have a panasonic, but there is a programme on there for white bread which only takes 4 hours, surely this would be a saving of 2p?

    I personally tend to blow the expense and put it on a delayed function overnight, so that it is ready for my brekkie at 6.30am, which probably costs me about 9p.

    My ingredients tend to be more than this I think, I also use wholemeal flour, butter, sugar, salt, water, and dried skimmed milk, I am sure the flour alone worked out at about 36p ish.

    I don't mind about the cost really, its the control over the contents thats more important to me, as local as I can make it. Now if only there was a mill in my area, I would be landed.

    Anyone know how to find local flour mills online?
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  • julianj1
    • #3
    • 5th Dec 06, 4:30 PM
    • #3
    • 5th Dec 06, 4:30 PM
    Sorry Mikey,

    Perhaps I didn't explain myself well. I'm averaging out the cost (excluding ingredients). So a shorter programme will cost less, so if it was a 3 hour white programme it would be around 3p. So yes it would cost 2p less.

    When it is on the timer I would expect that it would cost virtually zip - it's not actually drawing a lot of juice compared to baking. So I think you can disregard that cost: IMO your white loaf on the timer would cost 3p not 9p in electricity , but as you have proposed a new test, I shall do that next time I use the timer to find out for sure. I'll post the result here.

    cheers

    Julian
  • mikeywills
    • #4
    • 5th Dec 06, 4:48 PM
    • #4
    • 5th Dec 06, 4:48 PM
    Sorry Mikey,

    Perhaps I didn't explain myself well. I'm averaging out the cost (excluding ingredients). So a shorter programme will cost less, so if it was a 3 hour white programme it would be around 3p. So yes it would cost 2p less.

    When it is on the timer I would expect that it would cost virtually zip - it's not actually drawing a lot of juice compared to baking. So I think you can disregard that cost: IMO your white loaf on the timer would cost 3p not 9p in electricity , but as you have proposed a new test, I shall do that next time I use the timer to find out for sure. I'll post the result here.

    cheers

    Julian
    by julianj1
    I just wondered if it would be like a tv on standby, 'still sucking the juice' sort of speak.

    Happy to be proven wrong if you have the time, have just spend 1/2 hour trying to find a flour miller in my area, closest is over 100miles away. Shame.
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    • squeaky
    • By squeaky 5th Dec 06, 5:19 PM
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    • #5
    • 5th Dec 06, 5:19 PM
    • #5
    • 5th Dec 06, 5:19 PM
    Anyone know how to find local flour mills online?
    by mikeywills
    Easy peasy

    google for:- "flour mill"+countyname exactly as written with the quotes and you'll get local ones to you
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  • mikeywills
    • #6
    • 6th Dec 06, 3:41 PM
    • #6
    • 6th Dec 06, 3:41 PM
    Easy peasy

    google for:- "flour mill"+countyname exactly as written with the quotes and you'll get local ones to you
    by squeaky
    This is exactly what I did squeaky, it bought the history of every flour mill within my location, but the nearest working mill was an awful long way away.

    I have since, emailed them hoping that they do mail order.
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  • julianj1
    • #7
    • 7th Dec 06, 10:33 AM
    • #7
    • 7th Dec 06, 10:33 AM
    It is as I thought: the timer uses a negligible amount of electricity.

    I had the BM on the timer for a few hours yesterday, and the lecky cost came out to 5.6 p (i.e. virtually the same as my first post above).
  • HappyIdiotTalk
    • #8
    • 14th Dec 06, 8:55 AM
    • #8
    • 14th Dec 06, 8:55 AM
    Hi all,

    I've been monitoring the cost of my bread machine's electricity
    (Panasonic SD253).

    Overall it costs about 1 p an hour to run: slightly less for just the dough programme and slightly more when it's baking. So 1 p an hour is a good approximation.

    Ingredients for a 400g wholemeal loaf were 32p, so with 6 p for electricity, round up to 40p.

    I would expect other breadmakers to be in the same ballpark.

    Which conclusively proves that using a breadmaker is cheaper than any but the most cheapo and nasty bread.
    by julianj1

    Just out of interest how did you calculate the energy costs? Have you got some kind of adapter that sits between the socket and plug which monitors what goes on?
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  • julianj1
    • #9
    • 19th Dec 06, 11:03 AM
    • #9
    • 19th Dec 06, 11:03 AM
    Yes, ObviouslyNotAnIdiotTalk you are correct.

    This is what I have:Energy Monitor


    cheers

    Julian
  • Spendi
    Breadmakers and costs of loaves
    I've seen a million and one posts about breadmakers, but what i really want to know is, how much does it cost on average to make a normal wholemeal, white loaf in one ?

    Me and my little one dont eat much bread, we buy a loaf and end up throwing half of it away, so i was thinking if it was cheap enough it might be easier for me to make a little loaf every few days ?
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    I've seen a million and one posts about breadmakers, but what i really want to know is, how much does it cost on average to make a normal wholemeal, white loaf in one ?

    Me and my little one dont eat much bread, we buy a loaf and end up throwing half of it away, so i was thinking if it was cheap enough it might be easier for me to make a little loaf every few days ?
    by Spendi
    I'd like to know the answer to this too. We get through a fair amount of bread and I wonder if making our own would cut costs (definitely would cut the cost of the extras I get when I go in the shop "just for bread" )

    The kids are only here weekends and they are the only ones that eat white bread so I usually freeze the loaf and just take slices out, as and when I need them. They separate up fairly easily when frozen and you can toast direct from frozen with our toaster. The loaf will keep fine for over a month that way and there's no waste.

    Edit: and how come in the supermarket a half size loaf of bread costs more than a normal loaf????
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  • Idiophreak
    Could also think about getting those part-baked baguettes. Can just stick them in the cupboard til you need one, then cook it in 10 minutes. They're only about 20p for a baguette big enough for 2 lunchboxes iirc.
    • squeaky
    • By squeaky 1st Feb 07, 11:16 AM
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    squeaky
    The answers to these questions can all be found, neatly listed, here:-


    The Complete Breadmaking Collection

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    • By groatie queen 1st Feb 07, 11:18 AM
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    groatie queen
    I slice and feeze the loaves I make, as there is just me to feed, freezing prevents the bread going off and I toast it from frozen.

    I don't cost out the price of a breadmaker loaf as 1) one frozen loaf lasts me a long time 2) as already mentioned, keeps me away from the shops 3) I prefer knowing it's organic, low salt and no unknown additives. So I reckon it's good value for me and I enjoy the bread!

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  • Cazzdevil
    I worked out that a loaf, made with proper bread flour costs about 25p to make and produces about 8 slices.
  • pollyanna24
    The only problem with homemade bread is that it doesn't last as long as it doesn't have any nasty addictive or chemicals in it.
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  • lil_me
    I can get about 10-12 slices per loaf from a 1 1/2lb loaf now, got myself a slicer. I make it as I need it so doesn't go off, wholemeal for me and white for the kids, instead of bulk buying and filling the freezer. I have started to use plain flour instead of bread flour for the white, probably costs me about 20 odd pence a loaf, but there is the knowing what's gone in it, priceless! Goes in the freezer if a few slices left. The money I save from popping to the shop for a loaf of bread (aswell as locally it's £1 a loaf) is worth it.
    One day I might be more organised...........:confused:
  • exlibris
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    Me and my little one dont eat much bread, we buy a loaf and end up throwing half of it away, so i was thinking if it was cheap enough it might be easier for me to make a little loaf every few days ?

    Could also think about getting those part-baked baguettes. Can just stick them in the cupboard til you need one,
    by Spendi
    (idiopheak)

    We don't eat much bread at the moment either so I am trialling making rolls in the BM and freezing. The first lot of Cheese and Onion were delish!
    • Pink.
    • By Pink. 1st Feb 07, 1:53 PM
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    Hi Spendi,

    This recent thread might give you some idea of the cost of making a loaf: Energy Cost of a bread machine

    I've averaged out the cost of my ingredients and find it costs between 30p and 40p for the ingredients depending on what flour I'm using and whether or not I'm adding seeds etc.

    Pink
  • Cazzdevil
    I costed out a loaf exactly but it's written in the instruction book which is at home. I'll have to double check when I finish work.

    I do remember that a pizza, including toppings and mozzarella costs less than £1 for a 12"er. FAR better than ANY shop/takeaway one!!!
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