Urgent news on IPA's - Changes for BRs after 01/12/2010

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Hi all,

From 1st December 2010 the IS are to take IPA payments of £20 per month (current lower limit £50) and that ALL SURPLUS WILL BE TAKEN, not 50 - 70 %.:mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad:

These instructions have been issued today to all offices (and the OR 's are hoping mad about it too.)

Sorry folks

DD
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  • fermi
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    edited 18 January 2011 at 7:49PM
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    Summary of changes.

    For all new IPAs from 1st December 2010 the new rules for calculation will take effect.

    IPAs put in place before the change will continue to be assessed, including future variations, using the old guidelines for the full 3 years of the IPA.

    Specific changes.


    "In all cases from DEC 1st 2010, the FULL amount of surplus income above £20 should be sought via an IPA."

    Previously the first £100 was disregarded, and 50 - 70% of the surplus taken.

    "It is appropriate to allow each person in the household to be allowed £10 per month for sundries / emergencies. Other allowances should be as per chapter 31 of the technical manual"

    In other words, £10 extra per month per person on top of current guidelines.

    Guidance issued last week to examiners.
    Technical News item: Bankruptcy: Revision to the way in which Income Payment Agreements (IPAs) and Income Payment Orders (IPOs) are sought.

    Type: Case Administration
    Issuer: ORBS
    To: All A2s and above


    Following consideration by the Directing Board, the way in which the amount sought under an IPA or lPO has been amended. These changes should be put into effect from 1st December 2010 for all cases where a new IPA/IPO is sought. Existing IPA/lPOs will continue under the present arrangements as will any subsequent variances throughout the lifetime of all existing agreements/orders.

    The changes are:
    • The minimum amount that the official receiver should seek to claim under an lPA or IPO has been reduced to £20,
    • The bankrupt will also no longer retain any of the remaining surplus once all their reasonable household expenditure has been accounted for.
    These changes should be applied to all new IPA/lPOs agreed on or after 1st December 2010. Guidance is given below with regard to their application in respect of existing IPAs at that date.

    Identifying surplus income.

    When assessing the expenditure claimed as essential by the bankrupt, the official receiver should always consider each case on its own merits. A decision should be made as to whether the expenditure is realistic, relevant and appropriate to the bankrupt's circumstances and whether the amounts included are sufficient to provide for the reasonable domestic needs of the bankrupt and his/her family. The Household Expenditure Spreadsheet (HES) which provides average expenditure statistics available for various household groups, based on the most recent Office of National Statistics figures is available on the Intranet. Chapter 31 of the technical manual has also been updated to reflect the changes in approach. An updated lPA calculator will be on the intranet from 1st December.

    Removal of the retention of any surplus.

    As the bankrupt will no longer retain any surplus, an accurate but reasonable assessment of income and expenditure is all the more important. It is recognised that at lower levels the assessment can be at the margins. For that reason a provision of £10 per month, per dependant household member should be allowed to cover sundries and emergencies in all cases. For a married couple with 2 children, this would equate to £40 per month. There are no other changes to existing guidance in the Technical Manual as to how reasonable domestic needs should be assessed.

    Maintaining a consistent approach.

    Although the individual circumstances of every case will be different, the official receiver must try to maintain a consistent approach when considering the expenditure claimed by the bankrupt. During the interview a meaningful dialogue between the bankrupt and examiner must be entered into to ensure that the provisions are applied consistently and equitably.

    If a bankrupt's expenditure appears to equate exactly with his/her evidenced income, leaving no surplus the expenditure should be carefully examined and tested against guidelines provided in the HES and chapter 31 of the technical manual. Particular care should also be taken where the debtor appears to have had assistance from a commercial organisation in the completion of their statement of affairs as a set of pro-forma outgoings may have been included which are not necessarily expenses actually incurred by the bankrupt on a day-to-day basis.

    Where the bankrupt states that the continued payment of certain expenditure above that considered reasonable by the official receiver is required to meet the reasonable domestic needs of the bankrupt and his/her family, further information detailing the extenuating circumstances justifying why they consider this an essential expenditure should be sought. Chapter 31 of the technical manual provides further guidance on this.

    Calculation of contribution to be claimed under an IPA or lPO excluding the retention of any surplus.

    In all cases where the initial assessment of whether or not an lPA/lPO is appropriate takes place on or after 1st December 2010, the full amount of surplus income if above £20 should be sought by way of monthly payments under an lPA (or and lPO if an IPA cannot be agreed). This includes any cases which were initially assessed at nil but in which a further assessment is made, for example as part of the early discharge process.

    Application of new minima to existing IPA/lPOs reviewed following a change in circumstances.

    Except with regard to applying the lower minima (see below) the basis of any re-assessment of existing IPA/lPOs as at 1st December 2010 will be that under which it was first agreed ie the sliding scale for the retention of the surplus be retained.

    If upon review the amount available falls below £50 but is above £20 that amount will be taken and the IPA amended accordingly.

    If the amount of the monthly IPA payment was previously set at the minimum amount of £50, when calculating the reduced amount the bankrupt can now afford, the bankrupt should be allowed to retain the full surplus (£50) allowed originally. For example if originally the surplus was £100, they would have retained £50 and the IPA would also be £50. If at the review the surplus is now £80, the IPA should be adjusted to £30 to allow them to retain the £50 surplus originally agreed.

    If the monthly amount collected prior to the IPA review was greater than £50 the existing provisions apply in that the percentage scale of the amount to be collected should be applied in the same way as when the IPA was originally calculated, using the 50-70% contribution rate. However the amount of the surplus retained by the bankrupt should not fall below £50. For example, if upon review there is a surplus of £70, an lPA or £20 should be sought and the bankrupt be allowed to retain £50.

    Other matters


    Amendments are being made to the ''Technical Manual'', the ''Case Help Manual'', lPA calculator and publicity material, as appropriate.
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  • fermi
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    edited 27 November 2010 at 9:29AM
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    Now official confirmation on the IS site regarding taking ALL surplus.

    http://www.insolvency.gov.uk/guidanceleaflets/ipoipa/IPOIPA.htm
    Normally, you will be expected to pay all of your disposable income every month as your IPA or IPO payment. So the more disposable income you have, the more you will have to pay.
    Example of a ‘nil tax code’ IPA

    Say you are made bankrupt on 15 September 2010 and after all reasonable expenses are deducted, you have surplus income of £300 a month. Under an IPA or IPO you will be asked to make payments of this amount (£300 a month) for 36 months. If you are in PAYE employment, a nil tax code means that. the tax you would have paid (say £400 per month) is now available as additional surplus income, to be collected under the IPA or IPO In these circumstances you would pay £300 a month from the date the IPA or IPO began, for 36 months. You would pay an extra £400 per month (total £700 per month) during the period that HMRC gives you a nil tax code, up to and including March 2011 (about 6 months), when your tax code changes at the end of the tax year.

    Cheers Tim for spotting that. :)
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  • fermi
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    edited 18 January 2011 at 7:45PM
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    Updated sections of the Technical Manual.

    http://www.insolvency.gov.uk/freedomofinformation/technical/TechnicalManual/Ch25-36/Chapter31/part7/Introduction.htm

    31.7.1 Index

    This chapter is divided into the following parts and annexes:

    Index and Introduction (paragraphs 31.7.1 to 31.7.5)

    Part 1 - Introduction to income payments agreements (IPAs) and income payments orders (IPOs) (paragraphs 31.7.6 - 31.7.18)

    Part 2 - Guidance on making an income and expenditure assessment (paragraphs 31.7.19 to 31.7.31)

    Part 3 - Income to be considered in an income payments calculation (paragraphs 31.7.32 to 31.7.79)

    Part 4 - Expenditure to be considered in an income payments calculation (paragraphs 31.7.80 to 31.7.125)

    Part 5 - Implementing an IPA (paragraphs 31.7.126 to 31.7.149)

    Part 6 - Applying to court for an IPO (paragraphs 31.7.150 to 31.7.160)

    Part 7 - Review, variation and discharge of an IPA or IPO (paragraphs 31.7.161 to 31.7.178)

    Part 8 - Enforcing an IPA or IPO following default – initial action by collection agent (paragraphs 31.7.179 to 31.7.182)

    Part 9 - Enforcing an IPA or IPO following default – recovery action where bankrupt co-operates (paragraphs 31.7.183 to 31.7.188)

    Part 10 – TO BE ISSUED AT A FUTURE DATE

    Annex A – Assessment of real disposable income where the bankrupt's income is derived in part from state benefits

    Annex B - Guidance on the assessment of real disposable income where the official receiver seeks to claim a lump sum payment

    Annex C - Illustrative examples to support Annex B guidance where the official receiver seeks to claim a lump sum pension payment under an IPA/IPO


    Update sections of the Case Help Manual.

    Income Payments Agreements (ISCIS) (December 2010)

    Income Payments Orders (ISCIS) (December 2010)
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  • dojoman
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    Wow! that is going to hit a lot of people very hard, is this for new IPA`s or will they try and backdate it?
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  • skylight
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    Flippin heck!! (Cos the swear filter takes out anything more serious)


    That is very harsh. I am so glad my BR is done and dusted.


    Will this apply to new BRs after the 1st Dec, or to all BRs in the system? Discharged ones and on a 3-yr IPA; are they going to re-evaluated??
  • JCS1
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    Very ouch :eek: Though I'm guessing with government budget deficits, it was likely to be considered.

    Glad I'm not having to explain all that in an interview though.
  • elliesmemory1
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    Thats very worrying. will it be for everyone thats br now or new br?
  • casual_2
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    This justifies my decision even more to sit on benefits until my discharge date.

    4 months to go.
  • minicooper1961
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    Oh that's just great NOT:mad::mad::mad::mad:

    The csa have just assessed the children's father and finally after two years of fighting they are due to get some support and the IS will just take the lot :mad::mad::mad::mad: I give up.....:(
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  • Windsurf
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    That explains the IPOQ form I got in the post checking if my circumstances have changed.

    I wonder how long it will take them to start targeting people on benifits.
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