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Old 13-07-2009, 1:36 AM
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I have just become eligible to use the PDSA for my pets. One of my rabbits is due to be neutered, do the PDSA do this and if so is there a set fee or is it still done via donation? Also does anyone know if Drontal wormers and Frontline are cheaper to buy from them or is it still best to get them online?
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my mate uses the pdsa and i believe there is a set fee for neutering and that wormers and frontline are cheaper from them but im not 100% on that.
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Well, I actually rang the PDSA today and was told they charge £45 to neuter a male rabbit which I thought was a bit expensive considering you have to be on a low income to be eligible for their services. I am sure it didn't cost much more than that when I had my other bunnies done at my private vet a year or two ago. They are always trying to encourage people to get their animals neutered and I totally agree that they should, but at that sort of price it is not going to encourage people. I have always had my bunnies neutered but I am suffering real hardship at the moment and cannot afford £45. I also enquired about the prices of Stronghold (they don't do Frontline) and Drontal for cats and dogs and although they were a bit cheaper I am sure I have seen them cheaper online so probably will order them from there.
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The PDSA is a charity and relies on donations, it isn't subsidised by an outside body, therefore the priority is to treat sick/injured pets for those on low incomes. The income generated by (the more recent) additional provision of routine work such as neutering, vaccination and flea/worm control helps to subsidise the costs in other areas to ensure it can still provide a service to those on low incomes.

To be honest if you can't afford to pay for routine and preventative procedures then you really should think twice about owning a pet in the first place! The PDSA isn't an alternative service to using a vet, it's there in cases of emergency for those who find themselves unable to cover the cost of treatment.
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To be honest if you can't afford to pay for routine and preventative procedures then you really should think twice about owning a pet in the first place!
I think this is somewhat harsh to the OP as they said they have fallen on hard times and are simply enquiring about a question on neutering. Telling someone they should get rid of their pet is a bit too much don't you think because if they didn't care they wouldn't even be bothering about asking now would they?
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The PDSA is a charity and relies on donations, it isn't subsidised by an outside body, therefore the priority is to treat sick/injured pets for those on low incomes. The income generated by (the more recent) additional provision of routine work such as neutering, vaccination and flea/worm control helps to subsidise the costs in other areas to ensure it can still provide a service to those on low incomes.

To be honest if you can't afford to pay for routine and preventative procedures then you really should think twice about owning a pet in the first place! The PDSA isn't an alternative service to using a vet, it's there in cases of emergency for those who find themselves unable to cover the cost of treatment.
Oh thank you so much for your helpful reply! If you had read my post properly you would note that up until recently I always had my pets neutered by my private vet which again, up until recently, was able to afford! Through no fault of my own I am now one of those "who find themselves unable to cover the cost of treatment" as you put it! So sorry about that!
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I think this is somewhat harsh to the OP as they said they have fallen on hard times and are simply enquiring about a question on neutering. Telling someone they should get rid of their pet is a bit too much don't you think because if they didn't care they wouldn't even be bothering about asking now would they?
First of all I didn't "tell someone to get rid of their pet" - I simply stated the truth regarding the facilities the PDSA can offer, and why. If that comes across as harsh then so be it, nothing in this life is free!

I respectfully suggest you actually read what I wrote before just firing off an emotive response.
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Oh thank you so much for your helpful reply! If you had read my post properly you would note that up until recently I always had my pets neutered by my private vet which again, up until recently, was able to afford! Through no fault of my own I am now one of those "who find themselves unable to cover the cost of treatment" as you put it! So sorry about that!
I was simply providing the facts for the benefit of anyone reading. Perhaps I should have stressed that the use of the word 'you' was in generic terms and not meant personally
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Oh thank you so much for your helpful reply! If you had read my post properly you would note that up until recently I always had my pets neutered by my private vet which again, up until recently, was able to afford! Through no fault of my own I am now one of those "who find themselves unable to cover the cost of treatment" as you put it! So sorry about that!

I think the point was that you were complaing about PDSA charging £45 to neuter a rabbit. If private vets are cheaper for neuting then go to them. You should count yourself lucky there are organisations such as PDSA to step in when people can't afford vets fees.

The only point is that if your getting this rabbit neuted you obviously haven't had it long so surely if you thought that your end up not being able to pay for vets fees yourself then it might not been such a good idea to get a rabbit?
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I think the point was that you were complaing about PDSA charging £45 to neuter a rabbit. If private vets are cheaper for neuting then go to them. You should count yourself lucky there are organisations such as PDSA to step in when people can't afford vets fees.

The only point is that if your getting this rabbit neuted you obviously haven't had it long so surely if you thought that your end up not being able to pay for vets fees yourself then it might not been such a good idea to get a rabbit?
The rabbit in question has been offered to us by a neighbour. One of my bonded pair died suddenly 4 weeks ago and his mate is pining so I am trying to find another mate for her. Unfortunately I just found out that none of my neighbour's rabbits have been neutered. If my partner was still alive and also I had still been working I would have had no hesitation in taking him along to the private vet I have used for years but unfortunately I am not able to do that on this occasion and having recently only become eligible for PDSA services due to low income, I just assumed that they would be a lot cheaper or that it would be done on a donation basis. I certainly didn't expect it to be that expensive that's all. If we have him we have to get him neutered because when he has visited my rabbit, although they get on well most of the time, after a while he just tries to hump her all the time.

Chameleon, your post put my back up a bit because it came across as giving me a moral lecture. I have always been a very caring and responsible pet owner and have happily paid many years of private veterinary fees out of my earnings.

Mrcol, of course I would use a private vet if they were cheaper. I am just trying to get the point across that if the PDSA charges that much to neuter animals, particularly a small rabbit, then they are not going to have much success with their campaign to get owners to neuter their pets are they. I adore my pets and their welfare has always been extremely high on my priority list but I have to say that I know very few people, particularly those on very low incomes, who could/would afford that sort of price just for neutering, particularly a rabbit. As it is, we seem to be the odd ones out around here because we have always had all our pets neutered and I don't see any changes happening unless there is quite a big reduction in vets fees. I know the PDSA is a charity but I can't believe they they could not lower their fees a bit if they really want to get the message across to pet owners to neuter their pets.

Going back to getting a mate for Merry, we will have to think again. I have just seen a possible ideal mate for her in the free-ads and guess what..........it's neutered already!
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If you knew exactly what was involved in neutering a rabbit you certainly wouldn't consider £45 to be expensive!

The risk of anaesthesia is considerably higher than cats/dogs and they require a lot of extra care and monitoring not only during the operation but pre and post-op too!

The combination of drugs used are more expensive too, so taking everything into consideration it actually costs the practice more to neuter a rabbit than it does a cat!

ETA: If anyone reading this is struggling to afford the cost of neutering a cat/dog/rabbit and lives in the Midlands/Portsmouth/IOW areas then they might want to contact a charity called Friends Of the Animals who will substantially help with the cost.

http://www.friendsoftheanimals.co.uk/neuter.htm
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First of all I didn't "tell someone to get rid of their pet" - I simply stated the truth regarding the facilities the PDSA can offer, and why. If that comes across as harsh then so be it, nothing in this life is free!

I respectfully suggest you actually read what I wrote before just firing off an emotive response.
I did read your post and yes you did tell her she should not have a animal if she couldn't afford one as I quoted your post word for word. You posting that had nothing whatsoever to do with what the PDSA can offer but was your own personal opinion. And yes we all are entitled to our own opinions even if they are not necessarily correct.

Your first post in this thread to homeworkgirl just seemed to come across as very personal against her and why I questioned it that's all.

Good luck homework girl to getting a mate for the rabbit!

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I know the PDSA is a charity but I can't believe they they could not lower their fees a bit if they really want to get the message across to pet owners to neuter their pets.
Yeah I have to agree with you there, alot of places do free neutering to help with the problem but it depends on where you live unfortunately.

I think my local PDSA has "neuter weeks" and "microchipping weeks" on offer to encourage people to neuter.
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Well I have to say thank you Chameleon for the info on the charity which do cover my area so I will contact them tomorrow. I would still prefer to have the rabbit from my neighbour if possible because I know that if it doesn't work out and the rabbits don't get on, she is willing to take him back again.
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If you knew exactly what was involved in neutering a rabbit you certainly wouldn't consider £45 to be expensive!

The combination of drugs used are more expensive too, so taking everything into consideration it actually costs the practice more to neuter a rabbit than it does a cat!
To put the drug costs into perspective, for one commonly used drug combination the amount of anaesthetic required to anaesthetise a 2.5kg rabbit is similar to the amount that would be required to sedate a 50kg Rottweiller. The operation is more complicated (or at least more fiddly) so takes longer and requires the same amount of surgical equiptment and suture material that a dog castration does.

Generally the cost of rabbit neutering is artificially low purely because of the perception that rabbits are 'cheap' pets. Mind you, that doesn't help you if you can't afford £45 either!

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I know the PDSA is a charity but I can't believe they they could not lower their fees a bit if they really want to get the message across to pet owners to neuter their pets.
There aren't the same issues of population control with rabbits that there are with cats and dogs though - if you have an un-neutered queen that goes outside it WILL be pregnant are least once each year. Irresponsible dog owners allow their pets to roam resulting in unwanted pups. It's up to you to choose whether you want to put to un-neutered rabbits together.

£45 sounds like they've lowered the fee anyway, given the additional costs and surgery time involved.
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Mrcol, of course I would use a private vet if they were cheaper. I am just trying to get the point across that if the PDSA charges that much to neuter animals, particularly a small rabbit, then they are not going to have much success with their campaign to get owners to neuter their pets are they.

No, PDSA exist to treat sick and injured animals who otherwise would go without care. They are not there to promote neutering animals. Stop expecting everything to be paid for you.
If you choose to get an animal that is not netued then you have to pay for it. The RSPCA and some other organisations do offer this service as a way of promoting good pet ownership but the PDSA is there to treat sick animals not to fund unemployed people who can't afford the animals they are buying.
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Hi Homeworkgirl

I understand your situation as I have been there too when my house rabbits mate died and she was pining too.

It might be worth considering a rabbit rescue in your area, this is what I did at the time. They have their bunnies neutered before they let them to a new home, you are more likely to get a bun nearer the mates age, as putting young bun with an older one can sometimes have its problems. Rescue I use did a bunny speed dating session for my girl, (put her in a pen with a grill between her and potential mates and if there interested in each other they will be friendly... if they're not they will turn there back etc)
If things dont work out with the new bun, they will always take them back, and the cost for buying would be a donation of what ever you can afford. Rescues are so overrun with bunny from irresponsible pet owners, I am sure they will be more than helpful and grateful of an obvious caring owner like yourself.

There shouldnt really be any problems, if you need help with bonding your bun, let me know, Ive got lots of experience of this and (touch wood) so far havent had any failures.

Try the Rabbitrehome website for contact details of rescues in your area.... If you are anywhere near Warwick I know the perfect rescue owner for you to contact!

www.rabbitrehome.org.uk/

Best of luck with your bun...

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No, PDSA exist to treat sick and injured animals who otherwise would go without care. They are not there to promote neutering animals. Stop expecting everything to be paid for you.
If you choose to get an animal that is not netued then you have to pay for it. The RSPCA and some other organisations do offer this service as a way of promoting good pet ownership but the PDSA is there to treat sick animals not to fund unemployed people who can't afford the animals they are buying.
i have some friends that are unemployed and have 2 rats a cat and a dog all under the pdsa scheme. The only time the dog ever gets flea'd is when they make an occasional trip there. i do often think people should have to pay for a license to have a cat or dog as that might help prevent people keeping animals when they can't really afford them
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i have some friends that are unemployed and have 2 rats a cat and a dog all under the pdsa scheme. The only time the dog ever gets flea'd is when they make an occasional trip there. i do often think people should have to pay for a license to have a cat or dog as that might help prevent people keeping animals when they can't really afford them
Well, for those of us old enough to remember, you did have to buy a dog licence if you owned a dog but it was abolished about 20 years ago.

Also, something else that has just sprung to mind is that the PDSA will only allow you to register three (3) animals with them for treatment, or at least that was the case when I last did any work for them.
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yeh i have a feeling they just take whichever rat is ill though as they are pretty similar...
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