What happens re water/immersion if replacing econ 7?

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  • molerat
    molerat Posts: 31,865 Forumite
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    There is very little in a storage heater that cannot be fixed quite cheaply.
  • J_B
    J_B Posts: 6,444 Forumite
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    buglawton wrote: »
    ....in theory modern technology should be able to produce much better designs than yesteryear.

    That's my thoughts too, but I suspect (?) that storage heaters aren't popular enough to have that 'modern technology' invested in them * whereas these fancy new/pretty 'economical' panel heaters can be made cheaply and sold expensively ... maybe!

    * it really shouldn't be rocket science to make an well insulated box to hold the heat till such time as it is needed, should it??
  • Cardew
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    praline wrote: »
    I suspect that newer storage heaters will be more efficient than the old things I have.

    That's what I hope anyway

    It depends how you define 'efficiency'!

    Your old storage heaters will produce EXACTLY the same amount of heat, for the same consumption of electricity, as any other electrical heater - including new storage heaters. i.e all are 100% efficient.

    Any advantage of newer storage heaters will be down to their better insulation properties(i.e. not leaking as much heat) and better controls.

    As said above, it should not be expensive to repair old storage heaters.

    Economy 7 also gives you the opportunity to operate appliances in the night-time off-peak hours.
  • frugalmacdugal
    frugalmacdugal Posts: 10,077 Forumite
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    Hi,
    praline wrote: »
    but the electric radiators are so much prettier!
    J_B wrote: »
    whereas these fancy new/pretty 'economical' panel heaters can be made cheaply and sold expensively

    seems it's not efficiency that's needed.
  • praline
    praline Posts: 112 Forumite
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    You've all given me food for thought. I'm turning to evaluating for repair.

    I was sucked in by prettier and possibly cheap solutions as x4 new electric radiators would be roughly 1k plus fitting and are so much prettier but an increase in energy costs would be crazy.

    Do I just look for a heating specialist to give an evaluation? Or a sparky? I guess I need to get googling.
  • praline
    praline Posts: 112 Forumite
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    More efficient - well, my electric is so high that I wonder if a damaged heater is pulling more electric than necessary.

    I really don't know much about these things - it took me years to work out how to properly heat the place so it wasn't toasty in the day for the cat only but cold when we got in from work.

    However I can see that oil filled or whatever is pointless as I'll be drawing electric at standard rates as opposed to drawing it cheaply and releasing it during peak.

    I need to change supplier but was waiting to see if I was changing tariff.
  • frugalmacdugal
    frugalmacdugal Posts: 10,077 Forumite
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    Hi,

    well, I would be into the guts of the faulty heaters myself first, to see if the thermal links were melted/broken, and repair myself.

    You could get a local electrician to come check them out for you though.

    Used to be that everybody had mates 'down the pub' of different trades that all helped each other out.

    Too much IT nowadays. :p
  • praline
    praline Posts: 112 Forumite
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    Indeed. I remember growing up it was always a mate who did our family repairs, whereas now my mates and I generally work in the white collar sector!

    I can get legal, HR, Teaching, finance and IT help but help for hairdressing, sparky, plumber, mechanic? No chance!
  • Cardew
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    praline wrote: »
    More efficient - well, my electric is so high that I wonder if a damaged heater is pulling more electric than necessary.


    It won't, and cannot!

    Any electricity consumed(pulled!) by an appliance will be turned into heat.
  • praline
    praline Posts: 112 Forumite
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    I appreciate that all input energy will be turned into heat but if an electrical appliance is faulty is there not a possibility that it may pull (and expel) more energy than required?

    I.e I turn a thermostat to 20 but the item pulls through (and expels) 30 instead due to the thermostat being faulty. Yes it will have the same energy efficiency however as I never wanted it to be at 30, I would be spending more money in energy costs than desired because it is faulty.

    I appreciate that my understanding of ulilities and appliances is poor - I can assure you that I am much more able and qualified in my day job!

    Regarding aesthetics, we are now thinking of just getting heater covers :D
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