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Allan. wrote: »

Hi all...

I've just recieved a PCN from Smart Parking LTD for overstaying my welcome in an ASDA carpark - can I claim back VAT on a Parking Charge Notice (IF I pay it that is...?)

Also as I can't see any VAT details on their website I guess my question really should be are these parking charge companies VAT registered - and if not WHY not?

Thanks guys!

Allan

It is incumbent upon you to do the Honourable thing and report them to HMRC for VAT fraud.
They are VAT registered and all invoices should be VAT compliant.
See HMRC Notice 700 VAT Guide Section 16.2
“Whenever you supply standard-rated or reduced-rated goods or services to another registered person, you must give that person a VAT invoice.
A VAT invoice is a document containing certain information about what you are supplying. Paragraph 16.3 sets out the information you need to show. Your customers need VAT invoices to reclaim, as input tax, the VAT you have charged them.”

And to help you to be a good citizen, here's the HMRC reporting link
http://search2.hmrc.gov.uk/kb5/hmrc/contactus/view.page?record=k9zpyaj9_go

Last June I received a parking charge from one of these parking companies G24 after my wife parked outside B AND M for too long.

Their letters were surprisingly in context, aggressive, and full of legal inaccuracies.

I was doing a job in Australia at the time and as such had the entrance and exit visa stamps in my passport.

So I told them I was not the driver and sent them scanned copies of the relevant pages of my passport.

Their next letter demanded that I name the driver or pay up.

I told them to just disappear and their letters stopped.

However, I don't think I can do that any more.

These parking nazis must have a powerful lobby with government as they have managed to get a whole schedule of the Protection of Freedoms act of 2012 to themselves. (What a title!! Protection of whose freedoms??)

I have no idea whatsoever how this particular cabal of companies has managed to get their own schedule inserted into an act of parliament, the rest of which, has nothing whatsoever to do with parking on private land.

legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/2012/9/schedule/4/enacted

(Even though this site prevents me from pasting a url into a post most browsers will add the necessary code if you just paste the above into your address line. Otherwise you will have to put your own aitch tee tee pee colon backslash backslash double u double u dot at the beginning of each address line posted here)


Schedule 4 of the act says that the parking charge is now directed at the KEEPER of the vehicle and no longer the DRIVER. Whereas the argument I put forward in my letters was, that you can't just wave an invoice in the general direction of a group of people, any of whom might be liable and say,
" One of you has to pay this."
The invoice must be directed at the person with whom you have the contract.

If you don't know who that is, it is not my place to inform you.

By far the most nasty and aggressive of these companies is CPS. Combined Parking Solutions.

Their shared acronym with the Crown Prosecution Service I am sure is no accident.

Their website is designed to take all the fight out of the motorist.

Again it is full of legal inaccuracies. But it makes a very big deal out of schedule 4 of this new act.

It names and shames motorists and even reproduces copies of court papers with the motorists name on and how much money they lost by daring to go to court.

See

combinedparkingsolutions.com/legal-issues/#court-orders

See also

combinedparkingsolutions.com/downloads/dorringtonjudgement.pdf

and here:-

combinedparkingsolutions.com/downloads/wilsonjudgement.pdf

and here:-

combinedparkingsolutions.com/downloads/gaparajudgement.pdf


It refers to the motorist who has lost the civil case as a 'defendant'. As if he was in court for a criminal offence rather than a respondent in a civil dispute.

These nazis have leapt with hooting delight on this new schedule of the act.
It is manna from heaven to them, as the onus used to be on them to prove that the keeper was driving. Now they only need to pay their three quid and the DVLA tells them everything that they need to know.

I complained about this site to the website host and ICANN registrar. Also to the citizens advice bureau. Non of whom are willing to take any action, and have said so.

That this shower of bullies in woolly pullies can influence the government to such an extent that they get their very own laws beggars belief.

I think natural justice and public outrage will have this schedule repealed.

Why do people bother appealing?

Surely it is better just to ignore these 'invoices'

What about this page then?

http://www.combinedparkingsolutions.com/news-update-december-2012/