Feedback needed on JDS

MSE_Martin wrote:

...Officially JDS says you can't use an override. Yet unofficially it's admitted you can and it won't be stopping people...

JDS (JustDialSaver) or Primus Saver from Planet Talk (or any other CPS-only company) can't stop you from using override companies like Call18866/1899 unless you opt to pay them your line rental instead of BT.

The only possible thing JDS or PlanetTalk could do is change their t&c so that you made calls during the daytime as well via them but then I don't think they could tell when you weren't making calls through them so long as line rental is still paid to BT. So to get around this, if it was implemented, was to make some daytime calls via them but they (JDS) have to be realistic in that if everyone in the household works and no one is home until after 6pm then obviously no one can make any calls via them in the daytime anyhow.

This was explained by Oftel in a consumer guide to CPS here. Specifically the relevant paragraph is:-

Do I have to make every call using my CPS provider?

No, you will be able to use any other provider with whom you have arranged services (including BT) by dialling extra digits before the phone number you want to call. (This is called an 'over-ride' or 'indirect access' code.) For example, you may want to use a CPS provider for most international calls but use another provider just for calls to a particular country.

Some things to note and that is that Planet-Talk's primus saver have a individual call limit of 90minutes before that call then becomes chargable and JDS (JustDialSaver) is longer at 2hours. Also JDS may charge £1 for any email query they get where the answer is already on their website (shouldn't be a problem in most cases though).

April2 wrote:

I don't think a CPS could stop a user dialling out on another company via an indirect access code (1899, 18185 or whatever) because the call would be diverted away from the CPS at the BT exchange (i.e. before the CPS 'saw' the call).

Well, that seems logical to me anyway.

I agree, that's exactly what I was thinking and that's why I said they can't find out if we were making calls with another indirect access carrier unless we paid linerental to them and they would obviously block indirect access codes then.

Well at least I don't think they can!

drek wrote:

sorry.
i believe u guys are incorrect

i do NOT think you can have CPS & then use another carrier like 18866/1899 etc..

if you're on CPS [with Free eve/w'end calls...etc ] to use another carrier, you MUST dial the 1280 overide & get back to BT first.

Well don't tell OneTel then because I've been CPS with them for ages but use 18866 / 1899 / 18185 except at weekends - and never dial 1280 to do so!

drek wrote:

sorry.
i believe u guys are incorrect

i do NOT think you can have CPS & then use another carrier like 18866/1899 etc..

if you're on CPS [with Free eve/w'end calls...etc ] to use another carrier, you MUST dial the 1280 overide & get back to BT first.

. :rotfl:

Have to agree with April2. I use Tele2 as my CPS for free evening w/end calls. Then use 18866, 1899 and 18185 etc. Although they are routed using an Orchid dialler - it does not go back to BT via 1280 beforehand.....

drek wrote:

ok
i stand corrected!

& humbled

No need to feel humbled drek, I thought the same as you when I first started using 18866 two years when with Onetel, I used to dial 1280 then 18866