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Tesco wants 1400 for changing Spouse -> Son details.

Hello everybody!

I had insurance with Tesco for 6 month and I’ve paid 700 for myself and my Son but recently I found out that he’s stated in insurance as my Spouse. After amending the details Tesco want me to charge 1400 for changing and when I’ve decided to take him off the insurance Tesco still want 700 for 6 month which he’s been insured for. I’ve tried to argue over the phone that if accident would happen than Tesco would simply cancel the policy any way and I do not want to pay for something they would cancel but it didn’t work as they insisted that they would just charge same premium at the time of accident and changing the details.

Any suggestions on what should I do? :confused:
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  • Lorian
    Lorian Posts: 6,359 Forumite
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    I guess it epends who's fault it was that he was identified as spouse in the firstplace. If you think it was tesco's fault maybe they still have the tapes of the conversation when the policy was set up.

    The next question will be, who is the main driver of the vehicle.
  • Lorian wrote: »
    I guess it epends who's fault it was that he was identified as spouse in the firstplace. If you think it was tesco's fault maybe they still have the tapes of the conversation when the policy was set up.

    The next question will be, who is the main driver of the vehicle.

    It was online application and after I had to call because online didn't work but I don’t remember if I had to give details once more so it could be anybody’s fault.

    I'm the main driver and policy holder. I’ve added him to the policy just in case of long journeys and emergency because it was only £50 difference. He also lives at different address.
  • dunstonh
    dunstonh Posts: 120,207 Forumite
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    Online applications are your responsibility to get right.

    Tesco are correct in what they are asking. As it stands now, you either pay or they start the process of getting the money from you. You could try and plead hardship but that may not work.

    If you refuse to pay, Tesco may cancel the insurance and then that becomes a possible issue for you in future insurance applications as you will have to declare that the insurer cancelled the insurance due to non-disclosure of a material fact. That could have a significant impact on your future premiums for life as that question is usually asked "have you ever had insurance refused, terminated etc etc"
    I’ve tried to argue over the phone that if accident would happen than Tesco would simply cancel the policy any way

    Not necessarily. It would depend on whether it was classed as inadvertent non-disclosure or intentional. Problem for you here is that whilst it is clearly incorrect and could be inadvertent, it could also have been done intentionally to reduce the premium. Its very much a judgement call.
    I am an Independent Financial Adviser (IFA). The comments I make are just my opinion and are for discussion purposes only. They are not financial advice and you should not treat them as such. If you feel an area discussed may be relevant to you, then please seek advice from an Independent Financial Adviser local to you.
  • darich
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    kanaps wrote: »
    It was online application and after I had to call because online didn't work but I don’t remember if I had to give details once more so it could be anybody’s fault.

    I'm the main driver and policy holder. I’ve added him to the policy just in case of long journeys and emergency because it was only £50 difference. He also lives at different address.

    Given that you submitted the details on line and weren't told anything using jargon or confusing over the phone, then i think it would be difficult to pass the blame to the insurance company, unless they've recorded the details wrong. This is highly unlikely since i believe it's not done by hand - it's all computer generated - what you type is recorded and you're often given a "is this correct?" or "Are you sure?" type question when complete.

    You don't say how old your son is but it's fairly common knowledge that youngsters are regularly paying 4 figure sums for insurance these days regardless of the type of car. That's not to say you should have known but if you had an idea then an increase of only £50 would be a good clue that something is wrong.

    I also think that Tesco are quite entitled to ask for the increased premium. If they weren't then everyone could simply use wrong details, to get insurance for next to nothing and then fight it out in court with their company in the event of a claim.

    Even though it was accidental, you've committed a fraud by obtaining insurance cover bith incorrect details. I think if you refuse to pay Tesco and they take it further, you'll be almost certain to lose.

    Your best bet might be to ask them if they'll allow you to pay it up over a period of time interest free. Or even ask for a reduction of say 10%.
    It's a long shot but i think it's probably your only option.

    good luck.

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  • meester
    meester Posts: 1,879 Forumite
    kanaps wrote: »
    Hello everybody!

    I had insurance with Tesco for 6 month and I’ve paid 700 for myself and my Son but recently I found out that he’s stated in insurance as my Spouse. After amending the details Tesco want me to charge 1400 for changing and when I’ve decided to take him off the insurance Tesco still want 700 for 6 month which he’s been insured for. I’ve tried to argue over the phone that if accident would happen than Tesco would simply cancel the policy any way and I do not want to pay for something they would cancel but it didn’t work as they insisted that they would just charge same premium at the time of accident and changing the details.

    Any suggestions on what should I do? :confused:

    Firstly you have learned a lesson in that you should always check your insurance documents when you receive them. A previous insurer made a mistake because its number plate database was wrong and my premium was too low. I noticed this on receipt of the policy and got a full refund and insured my vehicle elsewhere.

    I'm not sure what you are saying about it being an online application, you are saying you had to call and may have had to give the details again, in which case it could have been their fault.

    I think they are talking nonsense in any case, because if you made a claim for £20k of damage they would simply look at the driver and tell you you were not insured - don't believe it that they would let you get away with just paying the extra premium: if that were possible there would no reason for anyone to properly declare their insurance details.

    The fact is, you have had six months of insurance that would not have covered your son in the event of an accident. There is no way they can sue you for the extra premium, simply because they have not suffered any loss - in fact they have gained the extra £50 you paid, which would not have been valid in the event of an accident.

    Anyway, best to avoid this entirely, just call them up and say you want to cancel the insurance, no need to give a reason.

    http://www.tescofinance.com/personal/finance/insurance/carins/standard/breakdown-policy-doc.html

    This policy may be cancelled:
    • By you at any time by providing 7 days' notice in writing and surrendering the certificate. In such event, provided no claims have been made during the Policy year, we will issue a refund which will be calculated on a pro-rata basis, less a cancellation charge of 25%. This is not applicable to cover under Section E.
    Then seek out insurance elsewhere.
  • dunstonh
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    I think they are talking nonsense in any case, because if you made a claim for £20k of damage they would simply look at the driver and tell you you were not insured - don't believe it that they would let you get away with just paying the extra premium: if that were possible there would no reason for anyone to properly declare their insurance details.

    It depends on whether it gets classed as intentional or inadvertent. There is a clear stance taken on this. The details are available on the FOS website and I copied and pasted a bit from there on a thread the other day. The only grey area is deciding whether it is intentional or inadvertent.
    There is no way they can sue you for the extra premium, simply because they have not suffered any loss

    Yes they can because they have provided a service for that period. Whether you claim or not has nothing to do with it.
    Anyway, best to avoid this entirely, just call them up and say you want to cancel the insurance, no need to give a reason.

    That is often the best way but it may be too late now as they are aware of it.
    I am an Independent Financial Adviser (IFA). The comments I make are just my opinion and are for discussion purposes only. They are not financial advice and you should not treat them as such. If you feel an area discussed may be relevant to you, then please seek advice from an Independent Financial Adviser local to you.
  • meester
    meester Posts: 1,879 Forumite
    dunstonh wrote: »
    Yes they can because they have provided a service for that period. Whether you claim or not has nothing to do with it.

    They haven't provided a service in a sense, because there is no valid insurance for the second driver.
    That is often the best way but it may be too late now as they are aware of it.

    In my experience these companies have so many call centre drones and such poor CRM software that you can just ring back without issue, and they are very unlikely to notice.
  • C_Ronaldo
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    I had a similar situation with my insurance, my mum was listed as my partner with my ins company, i told themn and they changed if foc,
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  • raskazz
    raskazz Posts: 2,877 Forumite
    meester wrote: »
    They haven't provided a service in a sense, because there is no valid insurance for the second driver.

    Yes they have. It may not have been "'valid" but if any claims had been made by third parties it is almost certain that the insurer would have had to act as "Article 75" insurer, so from their perspective they have actually been exposed to almost exactly the same risk whether the policy is subsequently found to be void or not.
    meester wrote: »
    I think they are talking nonsense in any case, because if you made a claim for £20k of damage they would simply look at the driver and tell you you were not insured - don't believe it that they would let you get away with just paying the extra premium: if that were possible there would no reason for anyone to properly declare their insurance details.

    As dunstonh pointed out, it actually depends on the nature of the non-disclosure. And actually, if the non-disclosure was inadvertent then if the insurer would still have accepted the risk had the correct details been disclosed, then the insurer must deal with a claim although they can charge backdated premiums by 'rewriting' the policy.
    meester wrote: »
    The fact is, you have had six months of insurance that would not have covered your son in the event of an accident. There is no way they can sue you for the extra premium, simply because they have not suffered any loss - in fact they have gained the extra £50 you paid, which would not have been valid in the event of an accident.

    Again, the predominant risk in this case is that of injury to third parties, which the insurer could not have escaped liability for, so repudiation of claims for damage to the OP's car is possible but of marginal benefit to the insurer.
    meester wrote: »
    Anyway, best to avoid this entirely, just call them up and say you want to cancel the insurance, no need to give a reason.

    http://www.tescofinance.com/personal/finance/insurance/carins/standard/breakdown-policy-doc.html

    This policy may be cancelled:
    • By you at any time by providing 7 days' notice in writing and surrendering the certificate. In such event, provided no claims have been made during the Policy year, we will issue a refund which will be calculated on a pro-rata basis, less a cancellation charge of 25%. This is not applicable to cover under Section E.
    Then seek out insurance elsewhere.

    The outstanding premiums will still be chased as part of the pro-rata cancellation and NCD proof will be withheld until it is paid, so this is probably not an option.

    Personally I would write to the insurer accepting that you have to bear some responsibility for the non-disclosure but offering, say, 50% of the outstanding amount, given that no claims have been incurred (I assume!). Depending on you and your son's ages you could perhaps also mention that it should have been obvious that you were not husband and wife, although this is probably a weak argument.
  • meester
    meester Posts: 1,879 Forumite
    raskazz wrote: »
    The outstanding premiums will still be chased as part of the pro-rata cancellation and NCD proof will be withheld until it is paid, so this is probably not an option.

    Who knows, without trying.

    It would certainly be foolish, not to mention expensive, not to try.
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