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Barclays contradicting themselves
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Compound_2
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There seems to be contradictory messages from Barclays about how the ISA is operated. I was told that the branches have no role other than checking the form and ID – they just internal mail to the Barclays ISA Office, Glasgow – which we know as the freepost address. Branches are not allowed to clear ISA cheques – they have to send them to the ISA office, who decide whether to accept the credit and then send it for clearing.
Thus ISAs belong to a separate branch, and only the account holding branch can operate the account. The sort code I’ve been given is 20-44-88. This is Liverpool, not Glasgow (or my local branch) so goodness knows where the account is actually held. The standing order section gave Barclays Bank, Leicester. The application form seems to go all over Britain.
I was very surprised to see posts about local branch staff keying in application details, ‘opening’ accounts and clearing cheques. I was told the ISA office maintains complete control to ensure the regulations are complied with. I’d be interested to know if your sort code is affected by whether the branch keys in your application.
The local branch said once the ISA is opened, branches can’t credit subsequent cheque deposits. They can only internal mail it to ISA branch (normally without a receipt), so it gets credited and sent for clearing a day later. The ISA office says you can’t pay cash in at local branches. They recommend paying into a Barclays current account and then doing an instant telephone transfer. I asked what about people who don’t bank with Barclays, and was told this is a good question and they don’t have an answer.
I have since checked the terms and conditions, and clause 2.2 clearly allows ‘paying in a cash amount into any Barclays branch’. Surely, for cash or cheque, you could just fill in a blank paying-in slip at the counter completing the Barclays sort code plus putting 8 digit account no, and the cashier isn’t going to know? Only if you try to exceed the limits would it be flagged.
I’d like to know the best way of adding the 2007-8 amount to the existing ISA maximizing interest, but this business of local branches apparently not crediting ISAs adds to the confusion of the Bank Holiday weekend issue.
Thus ISAs belong to a separate branch, and only the account holding branch can operate the account. The sort code I’ve been given is 20-44-88. This is Liverpool, not Glasgow (or my local branch) so goodness knows where the account is actually held. The standing order section gave Barclays Bank, Leicester. The application form seems to go all over Britain.
I was very surprised to see posts about local branch staff keying in application details, ‘opening’ accounts and clearing cheques. I was told the ISA office maintains complete control to ensure the regulations are complied with. I’d be interested to know if your sort code is affected by whether the branch keys in your application.
The local branch said once the ISA is opened, branches can’t credit subsequent cheque deposits. They can only internal mail it to ISA branch (normally without a receipt), so it gets credited and sent for clearing a day later. The ISA office says you can’t pay cash in at local branches. They recommend paying into a Barclays current account and then doing an instant telephone transfer. I asked what about people who don’t bank with Barclays, and was told this is a good question and they don’t have an answer.
I have since checked the terms and conditions, and clause 2.2 clearly allows ‘paying in a cash amount into any Barclays branch’. Surely, for cash or cheque, you could just fill in a blank paying-in slip at the counter completing the Barclays sort code plus putting 8 digit account no, and the cashier isn’t going to know? Only if you try to exceed the limits would it be flagged.
I’d like to know the best way of adding the 2007-8 amount to the existing ISA maximizing interest, but this business of local branches apparently not crediting ISAs adds to the confusion of the Bank Holiday weekend issue.
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I've just paid a cheque in at a branch in exactly the way you describe, with a paying in slip and giving sort code as 20-44-88 and my new ISA account number (I know what this is as I have barclays online banking, and the new ISA is listed there). The cashier said there shouldn't be a problem, but took my phone number just in case as I think she hadn't done one before.
happyshopper....nothing to see here...0 -
I had problem with Lloyds when I attempted to open a TOISA at the end of the period of opportunity for my matured TESSA funds. When I deposited my application form and cheque, I mentioned to the cashier that it was at the deadline. Then, I think the following week, received note from central ISA department that I had missed the deadline because everything had to be with their ISA department by the due date and that the fact that the branch had the paperwork in time was irrelevant.
I was eventually offered some compensation but, of course, it can never cover the ongoing loss of that tax-free savings pot.0 -
happyshopper wrote: »I've just paid a cheque in at a branch in exactly the way you describe, with a paying in slip and giving sort code as 20-44-88 and my new ISA account number (I know what this is as I have barclays online banking, and the new ISA is listed there). The cashier said there shouldn't be a problem, but took my phone number just in case as I think she hadn't done one before.
happyshopper.
Hi HappyShopper - I have been on holiday and now I'm back need to pay into my ISA for this tax year. Just wanted to know how you got on with this method of paying in? Any other ways of paying in, e.g. automated telephone banking?
Also, I wonder how one withdraws their money - do you just talk to a cashier or do you need to see a personal banker?
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I took the form and id in to my local branch of Barclays nearly three weeks ago along with a cheque. They said they would send it internal post to the ISA centre and I would hear from them. I've received nothing and it doesn't look like my cheque's been cashed.
We've now moved into another tax year so I'm wondering if I've missed out on last year's allowance as it doesn't look like my application has been processed yet.
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I went into a branch on the 4/4/07 filled in the app for 07/08 TB ISA and a cheque as I dont bank with Barclays. The guy filled in some details on the back and said he would send it off, he didnt seem to be to clued up as he had to check information with others when I asked a few questions.
I still have not had any confirmation that the account has been opened and I have not had any money taken from my bank account. I wasnt given a sort code or anything either, should i have been ?
Do you think I should wait until the end of the week before contacting them or should I contact them ASAP?0 -
happyshopper wrote: »I've just paid a cheque in at a branch in exactly the way you describe, with a paying in slip and giving sort code as 20-44-88 and my new ISA account number (I know what this is as I have barclays online banking, and the new ISA is listed there). The cashier said there shouldn't be a problem, but took my phone number just in case as I think she hadn't done one before.
happyshopper.
Does anyone have any advice or news on how to pay in to this ISA - I urgently want to add some more cash but don't know the best way of doing so. Does anyone know if the above mentioned method by happyshopper works?
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Yes, I have used the above method successfully. The cashier pointed out something on the screen to a colleague (who didn't know either) but then proceeded with credit. This might not happen for everyone - what we know from posts on this board, and as the title of this thread says, you will often get a different answer from Barclays depending on who you deal with. But I would recommend giving the method a try.0
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Thanks Compound, very useful to know so I will give it a try. I'm also wondering about withdrawals as I notice from the terms and conditions that withdrawals are made via bank transfer or that cash can be withdrawn immediately in any Barclays branch. When you go to a cashier if your already a Barclays customer (I know!) then what would I need to make a withdrawal from the ISA - just my debit card and other ID? Do I need to know the account number or if I ask to withdraw from my ISA should they see that account just by looking me up on the system?
I'm sure Barclays staff should be more clued up really as the Tax Beater Cash ISA is operated the same as their normal cash ISA!!!
Thanks for all your help!0 -
Just to add my own experience with the Barclays Tax Beater ISA, I went into my local branch (Reading) yesterday lunchtime, took £250 out of an ATM, filled out a paying-in slip with sort code/account number which I had found from my online banking, and took it to the cashier. She processed it without a word, and when I checked my online banking that evening the £250 was sitting there in the account.
I haven't tried withdrawing though, so can't comment on that...0
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