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So near...so far... a few annoyances
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dfarry
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Argh!!!
We can't exchange yet as my solicitor hasn't received our payment (sent Friday), redemption etc... from our bank... things have happened so quickly that the timescale is really tight - it should still be OK for a completion on Friday...unless anything unforseen happens in the meantime....
It's so frustrating we are trying to pack and arrange things, time off work etc... but because the banks take 3-5 days to clear funds. It really annoys me especially as I have a offset mortage that on Friday that money was taken and yeet it sits in bank limbo-land for days making them richer!
Another annoyance and one for you all to watch out for is that The Woolwich gave my solicitor a redemption statement...cleary its a figure for that moment in time...plus the £275 closure/admin fee (that I plan to dispute as well). This redemption figuree therefore is higher than it needs to be because I have since (as required) paid my usual monthly mortgage payment and also payments to cover additional offset borrowing. Personally I think they should have allowed for these payments but I can understand the argument that they can only issue the figure at a given point in time.
Anyway on Friday - if we do complete, the redemption sum will be paid to the Woolwich and therefore I will have a credit on my mortgage account. The woolwich has advised me that it takes upto TEN!!!! days to credit this to my current account (and then a few more days to get it transferred to my new First Direct offset accounts where I really need it). They said it is because the funds can be recalled and they have to make sure that doesn't happen - WHAT!!!!!!!! surely if the funds are recalled this would have a knock affect to the buyers and sellers in my chain.... what complete nonsense!!!
I can not believe it takes 10 days to get my money... that they have been clearly overpaid... I have lost interest whilst the money has been out of my accounts and will continue to do so... it really is time this kind of thing stopped I think.
We can't exchange yet as my solicitor hasn't received our payment (sent Friday), redemption etc... from our bank... things have happened so quickly that the timescale is really tight - it should still be OK for a completion on Friday...unless anything unforseen happens in the meantime....
It's so frustrating we are trying to pack and arrange things, time off work etc... but because the banks take 3-5 days to clear funds. It really annoys me especially as I have a offset mortage that on Friday that money was taken and yeet it sits in bank limbo-land for days making them richer!
Another annoyance and one for you all to watch out for is that The Woolwich gave my solicitor a redemption statement...cleary its a figure for that moment in time...plus the £275 closure/admin fee (that I plan to dispute as well). This redemption figuree therefore is higher than it needs to be because I have since (as required) paid my usual monthly mortgage payment and also payments to cover additional offset borrowing. Personally I think they should have allowed for these payments but I can understand the argument that they can only issue the figure at a given point in time.
Anyway on Friday - if we do complete, the redemption sum will be paid to the Woolwich and therefore I will have a credit on my mortgage account. The woolwich has advised me that it takes upto TEN!!!! days to credit this to my current account (and then a few more days to get it transferred to my new First Direct offset accounts where I really need it). They said it is because the funds can be recalled and they have to make sure that doesn't happen - WHAT!!!!!!!! surely if the funds are recalled this would have a knock affect to the buyers and sellers in my chain.... what complete nonsense!!!
I can not believe it takes 10 days to get my money... that they have been clearly overpaid... I have lost interest whilst the money has been out of my accounts and will continue to do so... it really is time this kind of thing stopped I think.
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think yourself lucky at 10 days. We have to pay the full redemption fee of £4,200 although we should only have to pay a percentage equating to £1200 and it's going to take 14 days to get a refund!0
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its theft, that what it is grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr0
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Hmmm... I got worse today....
one of the people in my chain is a "Key" worker... and is getting some special mortgage but the conditions are ther has to be 3 weeks between exchange and completion and not 3 days.
This is despite their solicitor agreeing in principle to everything last week...so that has stuff us and means the solicitors will have our cash for even longer... and we have to wait even longer for the woolwich to pay the money back to us.
Alternatively I might get my solicitor to request another redemption certifciate and see if they can return the extra cash directly to me....even a cheque from them would be quicker.
Hopefully we exchange tomorrow...at least the chain hasn't collapsed..... yet!0 -
I posted this earlier today... http://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/showthread.html?t=244806
BAD MOVE!!!
Clearly I was tempting fate....
Had a call from my solicitors... no exchange today... and no completion for three weeks because my buyers, buyer can't get the mortgage funds released for three weeks....something to do with him being a "key worker"...
My solicitor was pretty damn angry, especially with my buyers solicitors because an agreement in principle was made between all parties last week that the 18th would be completion. This date even originally came from the key worker some weeks ago...and it fitted with our timescale (relocation including us needing to get the kids into their new school for the new term).
Our solicitor had made it clear to the others that this wasn't good enough but my buyers solicitor was adamant nothing could be done (and apparently was quite rude about the whole thing). I also spoke to my Estate Agent who confirmed much the same thing.... Reading between the lines it very much sounds like one of the solicitors in the chain....either my buyers or the key workers has slipped up and not considered the timescale needed for the funds to be released.
On the positive side, no one has dropped out the chain and our vendors (last in the chain) are happy to wait, plus exchange should hopefully be tomorrow... fingers crossed completion will be before the 5th Sept. when the school term begins.
Tomorrow I just need to undo the arrangements that I have already made (and had to because of the short timescale).0 -
i know how you feel dan...
We're in a similar position in that our buyers had agreed to a moving date next week (was originally meant to be this week), and they are holding everything up by needing to sign a loan form! They were even still expecting to move next week!!!
It's just so frustrating!!!0 -
Yes it sure is...and to rub salt in the wounds the removal men are at a neighbours house today... hehe
I am just hoping we exchange today and completion will before the 5th Sept. otherwise the kids will miss school.0 -
Well wedidn't exchange in the end :mad:
But clearly alot of people are talking behind the scenes and bring pressure to bear on the part of the chain that is holding things up. This hasn't been helped by my buyers solicitors and I believe their buyer.... as there seems to have been some big communication problems over the timescale. Also today apparently there is so mention of one buyer defaulting on the lease??? and now some paper needs to be drawn up to indemnify them????
It didn't really make sense but my solicitor felt it was a fairly standard thing and should prolong things much longer - she hopes to exchange later today.
I am hoping for a 30th August completion now.0 -
The issue with the lease is still unresolved... though apparently should be OK after my buyers solicitor gets off her backside....Basically my buyers fitted replacement double glazing in their leasehold property and never got consent from the freeholder... He has now given consent but this has really held things up over the past two days. So hopefully exchange later today... still no idea on completion.0
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Hi again all...
I thought I would post an update... things have gone from bad to worse... the last few days have been a real eye opener on just how one solicitor can hold up everything and in fact how crucial estate agents can be.
Basically my buyers solicitor is causing a lot of problems....
The lease that I mentioned actually relates to some windows that my buyer fitted into his lease hold property. Last week his solicitor noticed this and said that consent was needed from the freeholder. It has come to light today that my buyer did state on his legal papers about the sale that he had fitted windows without any consent so his solicitor should have picked up on this weeks ago.
No problem said everyone, we can get a retrospective agreement from the freeholder - he was happy to oblige and sent a letter. The solicitor refused to accept this as it was "unclear"...no one is sure why but it seems to have something to do with the windows not being the same style as the original ones.
At this point things got rather silly and his solicitor really dug her heels in, the relationship between my solicitor and her had all but broken down because my solicitor was get no feedback, told that such and such was in meetings... basically my solicitor was get ignored. Finally my buyers solicitor said that she would not proceed unless a variation of deeds was completed. This has then bounced around for the last few days whilst the estate agents and solicitors try to understand what impact this is likely to have - in fact the chain has been very close to collapse.
I then heard yesterday that the buyer of leasehold property (my buyers buyer) was happy to accept full responsibility and felt the window issue was minor and certainly not something to stop us exchanging, with a view to then completing on the 5th Sept. Again my buyers solicitor was adamant - no variation of deeds no exchange.
Today was the last straw... my buyers are emigrating to France (they have kids), my kids are due to start at the new school on the 5th, the first person in the chain has a keyworker (tower scheme?) mortgage and must move within a certain time frame - also the company had reduced the 3 week period that first held us up last week to help the chain proceed.
At this point today I had to really focus my estate agents and they have been chasing around today trying to salvage the situation and try to ensure all parties remain committed. They contacted my buyer and he supposed told his solicitor to proceed with exchange and he would accept full liability for all cost arising after completion relating to this matter - again she refused point blank.
The latest is that my buyer has agreed to pay (and this what was quoted to me - £1200) to his solicitor (the obstructive one) to start the variation of deeds. In the meantime he will pay his buyer additional costs so that his buyer can rent somewhere and the first time buyer/keyworker can still buy her place (closing off that part of the chain). In doing so the agents and solicitors will be hounding my buyers solicitor as she needs to get the VoD done within 7-10 days and it is then likely we will exchange and complete (not ideal but there doesn't seem to be much we can do). My buyer must be livid with his solicitor but his actions do prove his commitment to buying our property I guess. Apparently (going by the estate agents) all parties have agreed to proceed on this basis - except my vendor who has yet to be contacted (their solicitor is aware however and is totally supportive). But I feel we are all praying that finally my buyers solicitor will do her job properly and quickly so that we can just get on and resolve this whole non-issue that she has caused.
There is I suppose the vague glimmer of hope that someone will talk sense into the solicitor...afterall... would you class window replacement as structural changes (i.e. as in bricks and mortar, an extension, load bearing wall removal etc...) if not then we are all wasting time and money.0 -
i expect the key worker is getting one of those equity lending deals -http://www.housingoptions.co.uk/ho2/ho2/open_market.asp
These 3 weeks I presume will be for the state to release the money, get it to the solicitor, then the sol passes it to the vendor type arrangement.:beer: Well aint funny how its the little things in life that mean the most? Not where you live, the car you drive or the price tag on your clothes.
Theres no dollar sign on piece of mind
This Ive come to know...
So if you agree have a drink with me, raise your glasses for a toast :beer:0
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