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reading my gas meter

Hi Guys,

Recently Martin spoke about new gas meters being in cubic meter where alot of the bills are still in cubic feet and this could effect your bills, does anyone know if this article is on here please,:T

Clair
Would love to be a "Yummy Mummy" but more a "Slummy Mummy"!!:rotfl: :rotfl:
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  • ormus
    ormus Posts: 42,714 Forumite
    basically it means to make sure you are being billed, as per your meter.
    you dont want a bill for 300 cubic m, if youve only used 300 cu ft.
    Get some gorm.
  • Hi,

    have a look at this BBC Watchdog item.
  • espresso
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    ormus wrote: »
    basically it means to make sure you are being billed, as per your meter.
    you dont want a bill for 300 cubic m, if youve only used 300 cu ft.

    I would much rather get a bill for 300 cubic M as it's about a third less than 300 cu FT.
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  • Wherryman
    Wherryman Posts: 206 Forumite
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    edited 4 February 2010 at 8:52PM
    These couple of old posts may be of help to you clairg

    http://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/showthread.html?t=2158833&highlight=conversion+factor
    espresso wrote: »
    I would much rather get a bill for 300 cubic M as it's about a third less than 300 cu FT.
    Don't you mean the other way around espresso ?
  • espresso
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    Wherryman wrote: »
    These couple of old posts may be of help to you clairg

    http://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/showthread.html?t=2158833&highlight=conversion+factor


    Don't you mean the other way around espresso ?

    No I don't. Did you actually read the other thread that you linked to?

    An imperial unit is in the region of 32kWh and a metric unit 11kWh, therefore 300 cu M is approx 3300kWh and 300 cu Ft is approx 9600kWh. Which would you rather pay for?
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  • About 2 years ago, my meter was changed for a metric one. Thankfully the switch went seamlessly.

    I did however go online to check my bill and clicked on a link for 'how to calculate your bill' .... lo and behold, it included a calculation for a 'volume conversion factor' to convert cubic feet to cubit metres (which obviously isn't needed for a new meter). No problem I thought, I'll report this oversight as website feedback. The muppets replied back and confirmed that no, I don't need the conversion factor (well duh) and that to calculate my bill as follows .... (and yes, they pasted in the formula including the volume conversion!). The key point I was making to them was that they know which meter I had (as shown in my online bill), so why didn't they give me the correct formula to calculate the bill?

    So, the key points learned from this are:-
    1. Check the calculation on your bill when you get it
    2. Make sure the right calculation is applied (skipping the volume conversion for metric)
    3. Rarely waste time pointing out technical website issues, as they rarely get to the people who can actually fix the issue (don't get me started on complaining about sites that don't like the '+' character in my email address).
  • Wherryman
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    espresso wrote: »
    Did you actually read the other thread that you linked to?
    Yes I did read the thread but as to your earlier post:-
    espresso wrote: »
    I would much rather get a bill for 300 cubic M as it's about a third less than 300 cu FT.
    I still can't understand how 300 cubic metres (10594 cubic feet) can be cheaper than 300 cubic feet of gas.
    300 cubic metres is about 35 times greater volume than 300 cubic feet.
  • espresso
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    Wherryman wrote: »
    Yes I did read the thread but as to your earlier post:-

    I still can't understand how 300 cubic metres (10594 cubic feet) can be cheaper than 300 cubic feet of gas.
    300 cubic metres is about 35 times greater volume than 300 cubic feet.

    The title of this thread is reading my gas meter

    You say that you read the other thread, so which part of this post here did you not understand? Explained by another poster again here.

    Prove it for yourself here.

    How much does 300 units on a metric meter cost compared to 300 units on an imperial meter?
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  • I think this thread really goes towards highlighting how confusing the power companies can make it for the average consumer to get the best deal from their many tariffs be it gas or electricity.
    espresso wrote: »
    How much does 300 units on a metric meter cost compared to 300 units on an imperial meter?.
    300 units on a metric meter would be about 10500 cu/ft
    300 units on an imperial meter would be 30000 cu/ft
    So yes in units the metric meter would be cheaper

    But back to the information in your post which confused me:-
    espresso wrote: »
    I would much rather get a bill for 300 cubic M as it's about a third less than 300 cu FT.

    300 cubic M is still a greater volume than 300 cu FT, about 35 times as much, not "a third less".
    Which would I rather pay for? The 300 cu FT would still be my choice.
    I still maintain that the information in your post is incorrect and confusing, but I could be wrong?
  • espresso
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    Wherryman wrote: »
    I think this thread really goes towards highlighting how confusing the power companies can make it for the average consumer to get the best deal from their many tariffs be it gas or electricity.

    300 units on a metric meter would be about 10500 cu/ft
    300 units on an imperial meter would be 30000 cu/ft
    So yes in units the metric meter would be cheaper

    But back to the information in your post which confused me:-


    300 cubic M is still a greater volume than 300 cu FT, about 35 times as much, not "a third less".
    Which would I rather pay for? The 300 cu FT would still be my choice.
    I still maintain that the information in your post is incorrect and confusing, but I could be wrong?

    I still maintain that you simply don't understand what has been said and what is on your bill. It's not confusing at all because we are all billed for kWh of energy, regardless of the type of meter we have.

    Metric meters register units of one cu M and imperial meter register units of hundreds of cu Ft. These units are then converted into kWh, which is the unit that is actually used for billing. It is the energy that we pay for and it does not matter if the metered gas volume is cu M or cu FT.

    My example was cost not volume, 300 metric meter units costs roughly one third of 300 imperial meter units.

    If you want to compare different suppliers you obviously need to compare their prices per kWh.
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