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MSE News: Unemployment down for first time in two years

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edited 20 January 2010 at 2:03PM in Debate House Prices & the Economy
This is the discussion thread for the following MSE News Story:

"There was welcome news on the jobs front today as official figures today show unemployment fell for the first time in almost two years ..."


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Unemployment down for first time in two years

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  • 09:30 20Jan10-UK Dec jobless claims fall by most since April 2007

    LONDON, Jan 20 - The number of Britons claiming jobless benefit fell by more than expected in December and by its biggest amount since April 2007, while the broader ILO level fell for the first time in 18 months, official data showed on Wednesday.

    But the improvement masked an increase in the number of people in the labour force who are neither working nor looking for work, with the inactivity rate rising to 21.2 percent in the three months to November, the highest since the three months to August 2007.

    The Office for National Statistics said the number of people claiming jobless benefit fell by 15,200 in December, well above forecasts for a fall of 2,500 and coming on top of an upwardly revised decline of 10,800 in November.

    The data will give a mixed message to the Bank of England, with signs that unemployment is turning the corner but fuelling concerns about the pace of recovery given that many people are withdrawing from the labour market.

    The number of people without a job on the wider ILO measure fell by 7,000 in the three months to November to 2.458 million, the first quarterly decline since March-May 2008 and leaving the jobless rate at 7.8 percent.

    The ONS had reported a rate of 7.9 percent in the three months to October.

    However, the number of people who were economically active rose to 8.046 million, its highest since records began in 1971.

    The ONS also published its new Average Weekly Earnings series, a cash-based measure which it says provides a more reliable gauge of wage developments in the economy and replacing the old Average Earnings Index.

    This showed average weekly earnings rose by an annual 0.7 percent in the three months to November. Excluding bonuses, average weekly earnings was up 1.1 percent -- the smallest increase since the series began in 2001.

    The old average earnings index showed a 1.6 percent annual rise in the three months to November, in line with forecasts.

    The ONS said the difference between the two series was due to a shift towards lower-paid occupations which is better reflected in the new Average Weekly Earnings series.
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    So is the short version - wages are rising and unemployment is decreasing?
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  • lemonjelly
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    Interesting.

    There ain't, & weren't as many on benefits as we first thought.
    Unemployment actualy fell...

    Hmmm.

    Also, wonder if seasonal jobs (temps for christmas) is factored in?
    It's getting harder & harder to keep the government in the manner to which they have become accustomed.
  • chucky
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    good news that the unemployment trend is now falling and wages seem to be increasing.
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    at last! - my 3 year pay freeze at an end????? mmmmmmm!
  • avantra
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    This is a drop and I mean a drop in the sea of unemployment, 7000 is hardly something to build from.

    Think of it that way, many many unemployed people don't claim, don't complaint and just get on with the their daily job - finding a job.

    - Many will be underemployed or on a very short contract (one month is not uncommon)

    I don't know if anyone counted how many people lost their livelihood in the last two weeks alone, and how many KNOWS that they are about to loose their job in the near future due to off-shoring, mothballing, mergers and acquisitions and so many other terms that showing how the political system sold and still sell the British labour force down the swanny.

    The chances of gov protecting jobs here is like the finding the proverbial clay pigeon dropping so maybe we should all be a bit poorer (as in less foreign investment) but at list it will give us a chance for a bit more equality.
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    lemonjelly wrote: »
    Interesting.

    There ain't, & weren't as many on benefits as we first thought.
    Unemployment actualy fell...

    Hmmm.

    Also, wonder if seasonal jobs (temps for christmas) is factored in?

    AIUI, unemployment and employment numbers are seasonally adjusted.
  • phil_b_2
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    avantra wrote: »
    This is a drop and I mean a drop in the sea of unemployment, 7000 is hardly something to build from.

    Think of it that way, many many unemployed people don't claim, don't complaint and just get on with the their daily job - finding a job.

    - Many will be underemployed or on a very short contract (one month is not uncommon)

    I don't know if anyone counted how many people lost their livelihood in the last two weeks alone, and how many KNOWS that they are about to loose their job in the near future due to off-shoring, mothballing, mergers and acquisitions and so many other terms that showing how the political system sold and still sell the British labour force down the swanny.

    The chances of gov protecting jobs here is like the finding the proverbial clay pigeon dropping so maybe we should all be a bit poorer (as in less foreign investment) but at list it will give us a chance for a bit more equality.

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  • avantra wrote: »
    This is a drop and I mean a drop in the sea of unemployment, 7000 is hardly something to build from.

    Think of it that way, many many unemployed people don't claim, don't complaint and just get on with the their daily job - finding a job.

    - Many will be underemployed or on a very short contract (one month is not uncommon)
    .


    Much as I am not overly optimistic about the UK economy over the next few years, I have to say this post take the biscuit in seeing 'the glass half empty'.

    Unbelieveable, even by this forums oft myopic posts (on both sides).

    Would 50k extra people unemployed be a better start to 'build on' ?
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