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Land Registry DOWN again in May.

Still to see a rise on LR figures after all the VI spin and positive growth from Haliwide - negative 0.2% fall MoM, -15.9% YoY

http://uk.reuters.com/article/idUKTRE55P2CG20090626
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  • StevieJ
    StevieJ Posts: 20,174 Forumite
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    edited 26 June 2009 at 11:59AM
    Then again they are just coming out of winter on there, 4 months behind icon7.gif A link at the bottom of your link
    suggests that prices will bottom at -24%.



    Average house prices are seen falling 8 percent this year, after already sinking 16 percent in 2008, but are likely to remain flat in 2010, the poll of 35 analysts at banks, investment firms and consultancies found.

    http://uk.reuters.com/article/idUKLNE55O02U20090625
    'Just think for a moment what a prospect that is. A single market without barriers visible or invisible giving you direct and unhindered access to the purchasing power of over 300 million of the worlds wealthiest and most prosperous people' Margaret Thatcher
  • chucky
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    edited 26 June 2009 at 12:07PM
    skap7309 wrote: »
    Still to see a rise on LR figures after all the VI spin and positive growth from Haliwide - negative 0.2% fall MoM, -15.9% YoY

    http://uk.reuters.com/article/idUKTRE55P2CG20090626

    that's a whopping massive 0.2%
    Timber!!
  • ruggedtoast
    ruggedtoast Posts: 9,819 Forumite
    Now calm down there Chucks old bean, you havent adjusted for inflation.
  • System
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    skap7309 wrote: »
    Still to see a rise on LR figures after all the VI spin and positive growth from Haliwide - negative 0.2% fall MoM, -15.9% YoY

    You'll be in luck when the LR catches up then.

    Are some people not aware it's behind or do they ignore that fact on purpose?
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  • chucky
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    Now calm down there Chucks old bean, you havent adjusted for inflation.

    don't you mean deflation Mr tugged roast?
  • mr_fishbulb
    mr_fishbulb Posts: 5,224 Forumite
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    Hahahaha from - http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/8120647.stm
    The Land Registry also said that the average number of property transactions totalled 31,091 between December of last year and March, more than half less than the 64,674 a year earlier.
    So you mean 'less than half'? :D
  • Graham_Devon
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    Thought it was a quarter behind = 3 months?

    Now it's four months?

    Were in July nearly, and it's reporting may, I make that max of 3 months?

    Therefore, it doesnt tally the Nationwide figures, but tallies with Halifax figures.
  • ad44downey
    ad44downey Posts: 2,246 Forumite
    A 0.2% fall in the middle of the 'spring bounce'. That's massive. Just imagine the plunges we can expect in the cold winter months. You're going to see alot more of this word in coming months. :T

    Timber!!!!!
    Krusty & Phil Madoff, 1990 - 2007:
    "Buy now because house prices only ever go UP, UP, UP."
  • chucky
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    edited 26 June 2009 at 12:27PM
    Thought it was a quarter behind = 3 months?

    Now it's four months?

    Were in July nearly, and it's reporting may, I make that max of 3 months?

    Therefore, it doesnt tally the Nationwide figures, but tallies with Halifax figures.

    Nationwide and Halifax are pants.

    The LR numbers get revised up to about 4 months behind
    Historical data published as part of the HPI are revised primarily for two reasons:
    Data capture lag
    There is a time-lag between the sale of a property and the subsequent registration of this information with Land Registry. This means the transaction data for the previous month will be incomplete when the monthly report is prepared. The missing data is included as it becomes available.
    HPI based on repeat transactions
    When Land Registry publishes its HPI reports each month, the index represents the best available view on historic house price movements at the time. As new information becomes available, the published indices are revised to reflect any new data. It is seen as statistical best practice for time-series indices to restate historic data as new information becomes available.

    http://www1.landregistry.gov.uk/kb/Default.asp?ToDo=view&questId=341&catId=32
  • StevieJ
    StevieJ Posts: 20,174 Forumite
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    edited 26 June 2009 at 12:26PM
    Thought it was a quarter behind = 3 months?

    Now it's four months?

    Were in July nearly, and it's reporting may, I make that max of 3 months?

    Therefore, it doesnt tally the Nationwide figures, but tallies with Halifax figures.

    Do you not understand how these things work :confused: May LR figures = roughly mortgages agreed Haliwide months earlier.
    'Just think for a moment what a prospect that is. A single market without barriers visible or invisible giving you direct and unhindered access to the purchasing power of over 300 million of the worlds wealthiest and most prosperous people' Margaret Thatcher
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