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Me Vs the Ebay scammer!
zincoxide
Posts: 1,135 Forumite
I've had an absolutely brilliant time for the past few days, you can have a good laugh too, just read what's below. Although I wouldn't advise anyone to follow my lead!
Last week, I listed several items on ebay as buy-it-now with best offer. I got an email from one buyer asking if they could buy a Wii game for £19.50, I accepted the offer and then they made their first mistake.
They asked that I remove the 'requires paypal account' restriction on the auction as their paypal account was not linked to their ebay account, so I figured that was a little weird. I decided not to send the item straight away as it would probably be fraudulent.
Less than 24hrs later, paypal put a hold on the funds. Surprise! It was fraud, but I hadn't sent the item and haven't lost anything. But I was annoyed and figured that would be the end of it. But then the ebay buyer contacted me constantly for 2 days asking for the tracking number of the item I posted as his brother works for the royal mail and he could get it quicker.
He obviously didn't know about the paypal scenario so it was definately a fraud.
As you all may know, I approach life with a somewhat different sense of humour and can sometimes find myself with some spare time on my hands. So I decided to see what I could do to wind up this scam merchant and get details to report to paypal & my local bobbies.
UPDATE: I have reported this to the local bobbies who were in stitches when they read the emails - the person responsible has been picked up by the local constabulary and I'm just waiting to hear what will happen next!
Below is a copy of the conversation: They are in black, I'm in blue text:
Has the game been sent?
Regards
No it hasn't been sent yet.
Can you confirm your address again for me and let me know your emailo address so i can send you the tracking ref when it's gone today?
No I woulld like the item. Nothing else.
Whats the tracking number of the item!??? You said you would send it to me, and now your offering a refund. I certinaly dont want a refund of any description. I want this item no later than tomorrow or appropriate feedback leaving.
They then sent an email with an address differing to the paypal account and yet a different email address and stating the item had still not arrived...
Really?
That's odd. Let me check it out with royal mail and get back to you or would you just like a refund into your paypal or bank account?
Lost in mail?
Im not that easily fooled. I have a business dispatching 168 items each day and never had one get lost!
IM ASKING AGAIN FOR THE 5TH TIME! WHAT IS THE TRACKING NUMBER. MY BROTHER WORKS FOR ROYALMAIL SO WILL KNOW IF THE ITEM HAS BEEN SCANNED IN OR NOT.
ITS CLEARLY LOKING LIKE YOU HAVE NOT SENT THE ITEM.
I HAVE ONE OPTION. ITEM TOMORROW AND POSITIVE FEEDBACK. OR CASH IN MY BANK NOT PAYPAL AND NEGATIVE FEEDBACK!
YOUR CHOICE
Oh no! Negative feedback?
Why don't you let me contact royal mail first?
If the item is lost then you'll have no option but to acept a refund.
??????????????????
This is becoming a bit of a joke.
I want the item and refund and i will repay once its received TOMORROW!!!!!!!!
Give me your bank account details and I'll send you a refund whether the item arrives or not.
ABBEY BANK
MR XXXXX
SORT CODE: XXXXXX
ACCOUNT NUMBER: XXXXXXXX
THIS MUST BE DONE TOMORROW!
WHERE IS THE TRACKING NUMBER?
THESE IS EITHER DONE FIRST THING IN THE MORNING OR I RECEIVE THE ITEM OR I HAVE TO TAKE ACTION.
WHAT IS THE TRACKING NUMBER??????????????
YOU BLATENTLY HAVEN'T SENT THE ITEM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
HAVE YOU MADE THE REFUND? WHAT IS THE TRACKIJNG NUMBER?
IM A SUSSEX POLICEMAN AND WILL TAKE ACTION TOMORROW IF I DONT RECEIVE YOUR REPLY CONTAINING THE REQUESTED INFO
Well Mr Policeman - do your worst.
Idiot.
If my item does not turn up in the next 2 hours and the money is not in your account I will contact your local department and have a colleague come round.
Your a complete joke and you have less than 2 hours to redeem your 100% feedback or its gone. Plus a paypal dispute.
I want, item or refund within 2 hours. Or Police will collect you and item in person. If it was never for sale you will be prosecuted.
End of story
Full Stop
Oh dear - you better have a colleague sent round to my house then. Tell them I'll be hiding in the garden shed.
Comma.
You'd better start a paypal dispute too.
Oh dear oh dear oh dear. Oh well, suppose the cells in the local station will be warm so might not be so bad eh?
So your really going to lose your 100% score all because you cant be othered to send the £19 game.
WOW - Never heard of that before. You obviously dont appreciate your account.
Well, we shall see. Im certainly going to get my money back as paypal cover people like you and I will be forwarding your relevant info to your local station. It doesn't matter if its £19 or £190000 its still the fact you have someones money and not sent goods. That makes you a thief and a liar.
Refund in my bank by 5pm Or, paypal, negative feedback and police involved.
Do the sensible thing and dont waster our time. "IDIOT".
If you dont comply, feedback left tonight, police informed, and Paypal dispute started.
£19 total..
I will check my account at 5pm and then you wont hear from me directly again
Wow, you're so generous, I only had 2 hours a few minutes ago but now you're giving me to 5pm tonight. That should be enough time to pack my bags and head to a non-extradition country with your £19.
Now, are you sure it was your £19 in the first place?
Final Email
£19.50
5pm
You have my bank details with Abbey. Go do yourself a favour and pay it in
I gave Abbey a call as I just tried to refund through my online bank account, they have told me I must provide the address on that account to be able to send money to it. Apparently some sort of new measure they have in place.
Can you tell me the address that bank account is registered to and I'll get the money in there for you in the next hour.
Apologies for the inconvenience.
You would of phoned your bank not mine if your struggling. My Mum is a banker and that is un heard of. They would never ask for that for security reasons.
You have until 5pm to make the payment over the counter at any ABbey branch which means you can get to any branch in the country within that time.
If its not done, I will also be making remarks about requesting, bank and address details which is rather suspicious to me.
Do yoursef a favour and close this case by 5pm
Your feedback certainly does not represent your service
Well,
You've been told exactly what I need to do the refund and I'm just repeating what the Abbey told me.
The ball is in your court, I'll just do the refund to your paypal account otherwise.
Either that or give me a different account with a different bank to refund to. There is no Abbey nearby that I could get to today anyway.
Whats your post code and Ill find out.
You an also pay into a haliax bank.
You have one of those yes??
Confirm and ill send you the details.
My postcode and address details are available to you on ebay.
Yes - there is a Halifax just a few minutes walk away, if you give me those details I'll walk up there just now and pay the money in for you.
That way you'll get your money back within the hour.
Regards
HALIFAX
Sort Code: XXXXXX
Account Number: XXXXXXXX
MISS PXXXXXX
£19.50
Reply when done please
Regards
I'll pop up and do the refund now.
Though, Royal Mail have informed me that the item was delivered to the following address:
Miss P*****
***********
***********
********, East Sussex
**XX x**
United Kingdom
That is the correct address isn't it?
Are you trying to scam me?
Im a policeman in Hastings. I dont scam anyone. I just wanted the game for my little one.
Please go and do the refund now.
Reply when done.
Thanks
There will be no refund done as the item has been delivered.
If you still have any issues then you will need to open a paypal dispute or contact your bank who will dispute it for you.
But, surely, if you're a policeman then you should know this?
tracking number now pal!
I GIVE YOU 10 MINUTES
THEN I WONT REPLY AND THERE WILL BE NEGATIVE FEEDBACK LEFT WHICH MEANS NO MORE SALES, PROBLEMS LISTINGS AND BUYERS WON'T BUY ANYHOW WITH THE FEEDBACIM GOING TO LEAVE YOU.
TRACKING NUMBER NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Oh no - 7 minutes left...
It's the final countdown!!
Would you like the number for the local police station or as you're such a clever policeman will you be able to just call them personally and sort this out?
Or you could always just come and get it in person...You'd be more than welcome.
> 6 minutes
>>5 minutes
>>>4 mins
>>>>3 mins
>>>> 2 mins
>>>>> 1 mins
No problem.
Knock Knock
Negative feedback left
Time's up.
I'll be hiding in the shed.
The number for the local police station is 01*** 5*****.
I'm fervently waiting the paypal dispute....
One final chance.
Refund/Tracking Number?
I will be leaving feebdack negative in 10 minutes no doubts about it
Last week, I listed several items on ebay as buy-it-now with best offer. I got an email from one buyer asking if they could buy a Wii game for £19.50, I accepted the offer and then they made their first mistake.
They asked that I remove the 'requires paypal account' restriction on the auction as their paypal account was not linked to their ebay account, so I figured that was a little weird. I decided not to send the item straight away as it would probably be fraudulent.
Less than 24hrs later, paypal put a hold on the funds. Surprise! It was fraud, but I hadn't sent the item and haven't lost anything. But I was annoyed and figured that would be the end of it. But then the ebay buyer contacted me constantly for 2 days asking for the tracking number of the item I posted as his brother works for the royal mail and he could get it quicker.
He obviously didn't know about the paypal scenario so it was definately a fraud.
As you all may know, I approach life with a somewhat different sense of humour and can sometimes find myself with some spare time on my hands. So I decided to see what I could do to wind up this scam merchant and get details to report to paypal & my local bobbies.
UPDATE: I have reported this to the local bobbies who were in stitches when they read the emails - the person responsible has been picked up by the local constabulary and I'm just waiting to hear what will happen next!
Below is a copy of the conversation: They are in black, I'm in blue text:
Has the game been sent?
Regards
No it hasn't been sent yet.
Can you confirm your address again for me and let me know your emailo address so i can send you the tracking ref when it's gone today?
No I woulld like the item. Nothing else.
Whats the tracking number of the item!??? You said you would send it to me, and now your offering a refund. I certinaly dont want a refund of any description. I want this item no later than tomorrow or appropriate feedback leaving.
They then sent an email with an address differing to the paypal account and yet a different email address and stating the item had still not arrived...
Really?
That's odd. Let me check it out with royal mail and get back to you or would you just like a refund into your paypal or bank account?
Lost in mail?
Im not that easily fooled. I have a business dispatching 168 items each day and never had one get lost!
IM ASKING AGAIN FOR THE 5TH TIME! WHAT IS THE TRACKING NUMBER. MY BROTHER WORKS FOR ROYALMAIL SO WILL KNOW IF THE ITEM HAS BEEN SCANNED IN OR NOT.
ITS CLEARLY LOKING LIKE YOU HAVE NOT SENT THE ITEM.
I HAVE ONE OPTION. ITEM TOMORROW AND POSITIVE FEEDBACK. OR CASH IN MY BANK NOT PAYPAL AND NEGATIVE FEEDBACK!
YOUR CHOICE
Oh no! Negative feedback?
Why don't you let me contact royal mail first?
If the item is lost then you'll have no option but to acept a refund.
??????????????????
This is becoming a bit of a joke.
I want the item and refund and i will repay once its received TOMORROW!!!!!!!!
Give me your bank account details and I'll send you a refund whether the item arrives or not.
ABBEY BANK
MR XXXXX
SORT CODE: XXXXXX
ACCOUNT NUMBER: XXXXXXXX
THIS MUST BE DONE TOMORROW!
WHERE IS THE TRACKING NUMBER?
THESE IS EITHER DONE FIRST THING IN THE MORNING OR I RECEIVE THE ITEM OR I HAVE TO TAKE ACTION.
WHAT IS THE TRACKING NUMBER??????????????
YOU BLATENTLY HAVEN'T SENT THE ITEM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
HAVE YOU MADE THE REFUND? WHAT IS THE TRACKIJNG NUMBER?
IM A SUSSEX POLICEMAN AND WILL TAKE ACTION TOMORROW IF I DONT RECEIVE YOUR REPLY CONTAINING THE REQUESTED INFO
Well Mr Policeman - do your worst.
Idiot.
If my item does not turn up in the next 2 hours and the money is not in your account I will contact your local department and have a colleague come round.
Your a complete joke and you have less than 2 hours to redeem your 100% feedback or its gone. Plus a paypal dispute.
I want, item or refund within 2 hours. Or Police will collect you and item in person. If it was never for sale you will be prosecuted.
End of story
Full Stop
Oh dear - you better have a colleague sent round to my house then. Tell them I'll be hiding in the garden shed.
Comma.
You'd better start a paypal dispute too.
Oh dear oh dear oh dear. Oh well, suppose the cells in the local station will be warm so might not be so bad eh?
So your really going to lose your 100% score all because you cant be othered to send the £19 game.
WOW - Never heard of that before. You obviously dont appreciate your account.
Well, we shall see. Im certainly going to get my money back as paypal cover people like you and I will be forwarding your relevant info to your local station. It doesn't matter if its £19 or £190000 its still the fact you have someones money and not sent goods. That makes you a thief and a liar.
Refund in my bank by 5pm Or, paypal, negative feedback and police involved.
Do the sensible thing and dont waster our time. "IDIOT".
If you dont comply, feedback left tonight, police informed, and Paypal dispute started.
£19 total..
I will check my account at 5pm and then you wont hear from me directly again
Wow, you're so generous, I only had 2 hours a few minutes ago but now you're giving me to 5pm tonight. That should be enough time to pack my bags and head to a non-extradition country with your £19.
Now, are you sure it was your £19 in the first place?
Final Email
£19.50
5pm
You have my bank details with Abbey. Go do yourself a favour and pay it in
I gave Abbey a call as I just tried to refund through my online bank account, they have told me I must provide the address on that account to be able to send money to it. Apparently some sort of new measure they have in place.
Can you tell me the address that bank account is registered to and I'll get the money in there for you in the next hour.
Apologies for the inconvenience.
You would of phoned your bank not mine if your struggling. My Mum is a banker and that is un heard of. They would never ask for that for security reasons.
You have until 5pm to make the payment over the counter at any ABbey branch which means you can get to any branch in the country within that time.
If its not done, I will also be making remarks about requesting, bank and address details which is rather suspicious to me.
Do yoursef a favour and close this case by 5pm
Your feedback certainly does not represent your service
Well,
You've been told exactly what I need to do the refund and I'm just repeating what the Abbey told me.
The ball is in your court, I'll just do the refund to your paypal account otherwise.
Either that or give me a different account with a different bank to refund to. There is no Abbey nearby that I could get to today anyway.
Whats your post code and Ill find out.
You an also pay into a haliax bank.
You have one of those yes??
Confirm and ill send you the details.
My postcode and address details are available to you on ebay.
Yes - there is a Halifax just a few minutes walk away, if you give me those details I'll walk up there just now and pay the money in for you.
That way you'll get your money back within the hour.
Regards
HALIFAX
Sort Code: XXXXXX
Account Number: XXXXXXXX
MISS PXXXXXX
£19.50
Reply when done please
Regards
I'll pop up and do the refund now.
Though, Royal Mail have informed me that the item was delivered to the following address:
Miss P*****
***********
***********
********, East Sussex
**XX x**
United Kingdom
That is the correct address isn't it?
Are you trying to scam me?
Im a policeman in Hastings. I dont scam anyone. I just wanted the game for my little one.
Please go and do the refund now.
Reply when done.
Thanks
There will be no refund done as the item has been delivered.
If you still have any issues then you will need to open a paypal dispute or contact your bank who will dispute it for you.
But, surely, if you're a policeman then you should know this?
tracking number now pal!
I GIVE YOU 10 MINUTES
THEN I WONT REPLY AND THERE WILL BE NEGATIVE FEEDBACK LEFT WHICH MEANS NO MORE SALES, PROBLEMS LISTINGS AND BUYERS WON'T BUY ANYHOW WITH THE FEEDBACIM GOING TO LEAVE YOU.
TRACKING NUMBER NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Oh no - 7 minutes left...
It's the final countdown!!
Would you like the number for the local police station or as you're such a clever policeman will you be able to just call them personally and sort this out?
Or you could always just come and get it in person...You'd be more than welcome.
> 6 minutes
>>5 minutes
>>>4 mins
>>>>3 mins
>>>> 2 mins
>>>>> 1 mins
No problem.
Knock Knock
Negative feedback left
Time's up.
I'll be hiding in the shed.
The number for the local police station is 01*** 5*****.
I'm fervently waiting the paypal dispute....
One final chance.
Refund/Tracking Number?
I will be leaving feebdack negative in 10 minutes no doubts about it
Treat others as you would like to be treated :A
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:rotfl::rotfl::rotfl::rotfl: what a numpty.
I read the whole Debitas debacle, you seem to have a flair for these things. Absolutely hilarious. :T0 -
That's another fine piece of work. :T I take it you are posting from your heavily-fortified shed?
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I'm curled up in the shed, covered the window in masking tape so no-one can see in...
Sssshhhhhhh!!
They might be watching and listening just now!Treat others as you would like to be treated :A0 -
I'm posting very very quietly... Shall I send supplies?0
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The supplies will only get lost in the mail...
Can you send them with a tracking number?Treat others as you would like to be treated :A0 -
That is wicked, well done you! And fancy reporting it to the cops, I wouldnt have dared! Nowadays they seem so un-interested in anything but speeding motorists, so very good to hear they did something about it.
Good to hear about things like this, e-bay a minefield for the unwary.........0 -
Hilarious. :rotfl:This is a system account and does not represent a real person. To contact the Forum Team email forumteam@moneysavingexpert.com0
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I thought ,for a moment, that Hastings was in Nigeria. Might as well be with crime stats like this.
Crime
Crime rates in Hastings (per 1000 population) 2006-2007[16] Offence Locally Nationally Robbery 1.6 1.2 Theft of a motor vehicle 4.0 2.9 Theft from a motor vehicle 9.8 7.6 Sexual offences 2.1 0.9 Violence against a person 37.1 16.7 Burglary 6.6 4.3
Pity they don't include Ebay fraud on here.I'd rather be an Optimist and be proved wrong than a Pessimist and be proved right.0 -
Not quite the same, but I had a scammer target me a few years ago for a PSP I sold. It was the usual false email confiming money is held in escrow and will be released with a tracking number.
My pet rabbit had recently had a bedding change, which nicely filled a shoe box. That was £4 well spent on a recorded delivery 2nd class packet....<--- Nothing to see here - move along --->0
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