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EA won't let me view rented property for sale

Saw a property for sale in my local EA. The conversation went like this:
Me: Can I view this property?
EA: No, tenants have just moved in.
Me: Oh. So the property is no longer for sale?
EA: It is, but they have decided to rent it out until it sells.
Me: So can I arrange a viewing?
EA: No, because it's only in the tenants contract to allow viewings 2 months before the end of their contract.

Is this total nonesense? Surely if the owner wants to sell, they can arrange to show people round?
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  • grrr who wants to pay loads of rent money for strangers walking around your house and are going to make you homeless?

    Think of the tenant
  • pinkshoes
    pinkshoes Posts: 20,674 Forumite
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    dudes wrote: »
    Saw a property for sale in my local EA. The conversation went like this:
    Me: Can I view this property?
    EA: No, tenants have just moved in.
    Me: Oh. So the property is no longer for sale?
    EA: It is, but they have decided to rent it out until it sells.
    Me: So can I arrange a viewing?
    EA: No, because it's only in the tenants contract to allow viewings 2 months before the end of their contract.

    Is this total nonesense? Surely if the owner wants to sell, they can arrange to show people round?

    Tenants have rights to quiet enjoyment of the property, so I hope you weren't planning on buying it and letting it out, as you'd probably be a lousy landlord if you think it's OK to invade a tenants privacy like that!!
    Should've = Should HAVE (not 'of')
    Would've = Would HAVE (not 'of')

    No, I am not perfect, but yes I do judge people on their use of basic English language. If you didn't know the above, then learn it! (If English is your second language, then you are forgiven!)
  • I,_Brian
    I,_Brian Posts: 191 Forumite
    dudes wrote: »
    Saw a property for sale in my local EA. The conversation went like this:
    Me: Can I view this property?
    EA: No, tenants have just moved in.
    Me: Oh. So the property is no longer for sale?
    EA: It is, but they have decided to rent it out until it sells.
    Me: So can I arrange a viewing?
    EA: No, because it's only in the tenants contract to allow viewings 2 months before the end of their contract.

    Is this total nonesense? Surely if the owner wants to sell, they can arrange to show people round?

    It sounds like the seller isn't entirely serious at present. Give it a couple of months after the contract finishes, and see how desperate they are to sell then. :)
  • domcastro wrote: »
    grrr who wants to pay loads of rent money for strangers walking around your house and are going to make you homeless?

    Think of the tenant

    Why didn't the landlord / potential seller think of this when he let it out?

    It should either be To Let or For Sale - Not both. Especially if a potential buyer can't even go for a viewing anytime soon.
    If he wants to sell it, then who in their right mind would would buy it without looking at it first. So the answer is for the landlord to take it off the market, advise the EA of this and so stop buyers from wasting their time enquiring about a house they cannot step foot in until the tenants contract is nearly up. grrr :rolleyes:
  • Drea
    Drea Posts: 9,892 Forumite
    I think the tenant is being very fair allowing viewings for two months at the end of their tenancy.
    Just because you made a mistake doesn't mean you are a mistake.
  • Drea wrote: »
    I think the tenant is being very fair allowing viewings for two months at the end of their tenancy.


    Doesn't help a buyer though. The OP says that the tenents have just moved in so it depends on how long their contract is. If its only three months, then that's not too bad, but if its six, or even twelve, then I think the seller / letter needs to get it off the market.

    I am sticking my neck in here as I saw a house on Right Move that looked just right for me. No mortgage required so I would have been able to buy and move within a few weeks.

    But when I asked at the estate agents, I got a similar response. It was being let out and I would not be able to view it for at least 4 months. So I asked why it was still being advertised as being for sale, when in fact it no longer was. The EA mumbled something about the seller wanting to leave it for sale and to gauge the interest. (Probably to see if he could increase the price).

    Well 2 months later, I get a call asking if I am still interested. - Nah, not any more. Bought another house which actually WAS for sale at the time.

    The house I originally enquired about is still on the market now, 6 months later. So when I read posts like this, I respond because I know the situation the OP is talking about. Grrr grrr :rolleyes: :wink:
  • Jorgan_2
    Jorgan_2 Posts: 2,270 Forumite
    This is probably something to do with HIPs, the vendor thinks that by having the property is 'on the market' he/she won't have to pay for HIP pack when the time does come to sell.
  • Sisyphus
    Sisyphus Posts: 293 Forumite
    dudes wrote: »
    Saw a property for sale in my local EA. The conversation went like this:
    Me: Can I view this property?
    EA: No, tenants have just moved in.
    Me: Oh. So the property is no longer for sale?
    EA: It is, but they have decided to rent it out until it sells.
    Me: So can I arrange a viewing?
    EA: No, because it's only in the tenants contract to allow viewings 2 months before the end of their contract.

    Is this total nonesense? Surely if the owner wants to sell, they can arrange to show people round?
    err no.

    "I'm bringing a group of total strangers round your gaff this Sunday by the way. We might check out your video collection and have a rummage through your wife's lingerie. No need to be in, we've got the keys." How do you feel about that?

    No matter what is written in the contract, the Tenant's right to quiet enjoyment is protected in the Housing Act. The only exception is access in an emergency (fire, flood, gas leak etc).
    The tenant has the right to refuse all other intrusions until the day of his departure. The fact that many landlords ignore the law and many tenants don't know their rights is irrelevant.
  • pinkshoes
    pinkshoes Posts: 20,674 Forumite
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    dodgydaz wrote: »
    Doesn't help a buyer though. The OP says that the tenents have just moved in so it depends on how long their contract is. If its only three months, then that's not too bad, but if its six, or even twelve, then I think the seller / letter needs to get it off the market.

    I am sticking my neck in here as I saw a house on Right Move that looked just right for me. No mortgage required so I would have been able to buy and move within a few weeks.

    But when I asked at the estate agents, I got a similar response. It was being let out and I would not be able to view it for at least 4 months. So I asked why it was still being advertised as being for sale, when in fact it no longer was. The EA mumbled something about the seller wanting to leave it for sale and to gauge the interest. (Probably to see if he could increase the price).

    Well 2 months later, I get a call asking if I am still interested. - Nah, not any more. Bought another house which actually WAS for sale at the time.

    The house I originally enquired about is still on the market now, 6 months later. So when I read posts like this, I respond because I know the situation the OP is talking about. Grrr grrr :rolleyes: :wink:

    This has nothing to do with the buyer.

    If you own a BTL and want to sell it, then you either have to take a hit on the rent to sell the property with vacant possession, or put it on the market with the understanding that the tenants don't have to let you in to show people around, and if they do let you, it's very kind of them, and they should be thanked with rent reduction or something similar.

    It's a risk with owning a BTL property if you want to sell.
    Should've = Should HAVE (not 'of')
    Would've = Would HAVE (not 'of')

    No, I am not perfect, but yes I do judge people on their use of basic English language. If you didn't know the above, then learn it! (If English is your second language, then you are forgiven!)
  • PasturesNew
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    A lot of BTL landlords who are selling their properties off are hoping another BTL landlord will buy it. So there's no need to view it in some cases as the tenant will stay there, just have a different landlord.

    What would you do if you were a desperate landlord who needed the rent, yet the house was falling in value and you could no longer afford to keep it? They want to sell it, but it's empty, so they're double-advertising it for rent and for sale.

    But the tenant has the right to disallow viewings. I would. Having to tidy up my personals and valuables so strangers can tramp through the place, not to mention having to disappear while they did it.
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