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Questions in the Pharmacy

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  • kenshaz
    kenshaz Posts: 3,155 Forumite
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    poppy_f1 wrote: »
    but theres nothign to stop you going back in 10mins later and buying and buying another 2 packs using a different till
    Therefore it is a all a joke.
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  • kenshaz
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    liz545 wrote: »
    Actually, the rest of Europe does have similar legislation, as I discovered when trying to buy painkillers in Germany last year; I don't speak very good German so it was a bit tricky!
    The pharmacy staff are just trying to make sure you get the medication that's right for you, it doesn't really have anything to do with the gov't. Since it's only 5 minutes out of your day, I think you may have to get over it!
    Well what would you expect in Germany,this is the UK ,and it is not EU legislation ,but UK. If I am in pain ,the last thing that I want is interrogation.There is a slight chance that it could have adverse effects .Driving a car is dangerous ,there is a definite chance that it could kill me ,ban the use of cars .Alcohol kills ,the government takes taxes ,ban it or perhaps interrogate those who buy it.
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  • kenshaz
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    beedeedee wrote: »
    Did you realise antibiotics (amoxycillin at twice the strength of the UK) can be bought OTC in Spain? No questions asked - how bad is that ?
    Not bad at all,if you have a secondary infection and need a broad spectrum anti-biotic.I would like the option ,my sisters condition worsened because her GP would not give har anti-biotics on her first visit ,when she returned for help ,she was extremely ill,the Doctor had an opinion ,I want choice.
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  • kenshaz
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    andyrules wrote: »
    but theres nothign to stop you going back in 10mins later and buying and buying another 2 packs using a different till

    But someone said earlier that such delays can deter someone who is contemplating suicide...
    That is a theory,not proven ,but enforced by legislation for emotional reasons.Please do not contest the sale of quantities of pain-killers some-one might die ,highly charged and emotional.
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  • jenza8
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    kenshaz wrote: »
    Therefore it is a all a joke.

    Actually no, it isn't. As has been previously posted, this is more likely to deter someone considering suicide as a spur of the moment thing as they have to plan it a little more. And before you ask, yes, suicide rates have fallen as a result. Surely a few inobtrusive questions are therefore acceptable.
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  • kenshaz
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    jenza8 wrote: »
    Actually no, it isn't. As has been previously posted, this is more likely to deter someone considering suicide as a spur of the moment thing as they have to plan it a little more. And before you ask, yes, suicide rates have fallen as a result. Surely a few inobtrusive questions are therefore acceptable.
    Please show me the statistics? Aspirin is not a chosen drug for suicide ,paracetamol would be the drug of choice,therefore I cannot see your reasoning.
    Alcohol kills ,I therefore believe that every-one who buys a Gin & Tonic or a Pint should answer some questions,I am sure that it would save life.
    It is so illogical.
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  • Gem_
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    Originally Posted by kenshaz viewpost.gif Please show me the statistics? Aspirin is not a chosen drug for suicide ,paracetamol would be the drug of choice,therefore I cannot see your reasoning.
    Alcohol kills ,I therefore believe that every-one who buys a Gin & Tonic or a Pint should answer some questions,I am sure that it would save life.
    It is so illogical.




    It is to discourage spur of the moment pill swallowing, I am sure that someone who would have taken paracetamol would be quite willing to down a bottle of asprin as a second choice? The smaller packets mean people are much less likely to have as many to hand in the house when they suddenly feel the urge. I would not imagine that the legislation helps one jot for people who have planned it in advance.

    Totally agree about the Alcohol point - it would certainly make the queue at the bar longer :beer:
  • frivolous_fay
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    kenshaz wrote: »
    Not bad at all,if you have a secondary infection and need a broad spectrum anti-biotic.I would like the option ,my sisters condition worsened because her GP would not give har anti-biotics on her first visit ,when she returned for help ,she was extremely ill,the Doctor had an opinion ,I want choice.

    Surely the 'vulnerable' people you mentioned are more likely to purchase pointless antibiotics merely because they think they need them? It's cavalier treatment of these drugs that has led us to our current antibiotic crisis.
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  • Although the risk depends on the individual patient, aspirin can kill asthmatics. Paracetamol and ibruprofen can do the same thing. There is also the fact that aspirin may not be the drug of choice for the problem you are purchasing it for. It doesn't matter how educated you are - a lot of medical professionals miss what is right under their nose.

    This has been said already, but healthcare assistants are legally and ethically bound by the Sales of Medicines Protocol. This used to be the WWHAM questions, although now, we are asked to first advise. So instead of us asking you if you've taken aspirin before, and if you're asthmatic etc, we would tell you outright that it shouln't be taken by children (risk of Reye's Syndrome), you shouldn't take it if you're asthmatic (risk of death), you shouldn't take it if you have blood pressure problems (risk of servere cardiac problems) and that if you havn't taken it before, you ought to consult with the pharmacist. Also, would you like any advice?

    As for quantities, the law states that certain amounts of a drug, eg. paracetamol can be sold without a pharmacist on the premises. If you want to buy four packets of 500mg paracetamol, for example, you're exceding the legal limit, and a pharmacist needs to be there to intervene in the sale if necessary. Not really because of a suicide risk, but because you may be damaging your body by accident, or you may have a serious underlying condition that needs other treatment. It should be noted that paracetamol is a dangerous drug, as is aspirin. Just because they're in common use, doesn't mean they're fine for everyone. I have a friend who has recently nearly died in hospital, because of a bad reaction to ibruprofen, after being prescribed the drug and by taking routine amounts with no known risk. Furthermore, I have recently recovered from a condition which, for a reason no doctor can really explain, made me incredibley sensitive to painkillers, and I lived with chronic pain, every day, all over my body. I couldn't walk for months from the pain, so please don't say "well, I'm in pain when I come to the counter" - I'd hope you weren't buying codeine-containing drugs when you're perfectly fine.

    Now, the next time you see a healthcare assistant have medicines thrown back at them (people do throw our stock at us), please try to understand that we are all hurting, sentient beings, and they have a crap life, too. :rolleyes:;)

    edit. Warfarin is the evil drug of evils! I'd say get the pharm when warfarin-takers are trying to buy tissues, just to be safe.
  • I must disagree with those of you who think suicidal people only take paracetemol. I am a nurse who often has to treat people after suicide attempts and you'd be surprised what daft drugs people use! Usually, anything they have in the cupboard. Parents cardiac medication, thyroid tablets, asprin. Any of these, though usually not fatal, can cause chronic heart, lung, liver or renal failure, which are usually fatal. There is a saying that most nurses get to a point where they would like to host a seminar entitled "succesful suicides: the how to".
    The point being, that suicide attempts are usually impulsive and if you can fend off the impulse through delay, there's a chance.
    For those who hate the questions from a pharmacist: these people work darn hard for four years learning all the various side effects drugs can have. They know far more about medicines than doctors. Trust them, listen to them, and if you stay loyal to one pharmacist, they'll get to know you too, and may not need to ask all the questions. Stop moaning and find ways to make the system work for you.
    There. End of rant. Thank you
    love, the night nurse who hasn't slept yet coz her car broke down on the way home. Grrr
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