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Link please? My understanding is it's based on whether and how far you can walk and not the condition itself.Sealed pot challenge #232. Gold stars from Sue-UU - :staradmin :staradmin £75.29 banked
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Link please? My understanding is it's based on whether and how far you can walk and not the condition itself.
I've closed the pages now - however - legislation.gov.uk - "The disabled persons (badges for motor vehicles)" regulations are the ones that apply.
The current test is as mentioned above - 'a permanent and substantial disability or a temporary and substantial disability which renders the person unable to walk or virtually unable to walk'.
Any guidance referring to 'considerable difficulty walking' is in error.0 -
Oh what a surprise you missed out the next sentence of that quote which states they may qualify if they have severe walking difficulties.Sealed pot challenge #232. Gold stars from Sue-UU - :staradmin :staradmin £75.29 banked
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Earlier post was in error for England.
For England - http://www.legislation.gov.uk/uksi/2000/682/regulation/4/made '(f)has a permanent and substantial disability which causes inability to walk or very considerable difficulty in walking.' seems not to have been updated at all.
In scotland in 2011, this was changed in http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ssi/2011/89/regulation/2/made
by 'in subparagraph (f/g) for “has considerable difficulty in walking” substitute “virtually unable to walk”' from the 2007 '(f)is unable to walk or has considerable difficulty in walking by reason of a permanent and substantial disability; or
(g)is unable to walk or has considerable difficulty in walking by reason of a temporary but substantial disability which is likely to last for a period of at least 12 months beginning with the date on which the badge is issued.”.'
in http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ssi/2007/162/regulation/5/made
The same concerns raised above about the harsher scottish test of course still apply for those in scotland.0 -
myoldrocker wrote: »It does seem that having ME on it's own will not be acceptable for a Blue Badge. However if they are unable or virtually unable to walk because of another condition in addition to ME then they will be given a Blue Badge.
Having ME on it's own and whether you say you cannot or virtually cannot walk is not a good enough reason to be given a Blue Badge.
ME - if severe enough to cause inability, or virtual inability to walk (in Scotland) and inability, or considerable difficulty walking in England - can qualify.
The councils leaflet is either poorly drafted, or if they are actually following that policy - beyond what the law allows.0 -
PIP - there are 2 types of MOBILITY ACTIVITIES - this is #1 Moving around.
a. Can stand and then move more than 200 metres, either aided or unaided. 0 points
b. Can stand and then move more than 50 metres but no more than 200 metres, either aided or unaided. 4 points
c. Can stand and then move unaided more than 20 metres but no more than 50 metres. 8 points
d. Can stand and then move using an aid or appliance more than 20 metres but no more than 50 metres. 10 points
e. Can stand and then move more than 1 metre but no more than 20 metres, either aided or unaided. 12 points
f. Cannot, either aided or unaided, – (i) stand; or (ii) move more than 1 metre. 12 points
Blue Badge - there are 2 types of BB ELIGIBILITY CRITERIA - #1 without Further Assessment, and #2 subject to Further Assessment’.
a. The high rate gets a walk through to #1 without Further Assessment
b. Anything other than #1 automatically gets #2 subject to Further Assessment, and the PIP assessment criteria is shadowed
In terms of the practical day to day operation of BB applications and 'subject to Further Assessment' testing, most LA's did not have a formal policy of gathering information, nor testing for, good and bad day distribution. As far as I'm aware there is no national directive to incorporate the gathering and testing of 'good and bad days' though certainly the Ombudsman has advised various LA's to allow their O/T's and other assessors to gather and test for and to include this in their formal policy.
On a different subject I note Andy is back and active !Disclaimer : Everything I write on this forum is my opinion. I try to be an even-handed poster and accept that you at times may not agree with these opinions or how I choose to express them, this is not my problem. The Disabled : If years cannot be added to their lives, at least life can be added to their years - Alf Morris - ℜ0 -
Hi everybody, I just signed up so that I can post this:
I was suprised that I didn't see any other posts about applying directly to your local council.
My Mrs has Fibro, and is now able to claim PIP. She has other issues too and that's perhaps why she scored enough points to be able to get the PIPs.
WRT the Blue Badge... before the PIP claim was granted, we applied to the local council for a Blue Badge. You fill in a form and send it off with a passport style photo and pay £11.
A couple of weeks later it drops through the letterbox.
I don't remember if we needed any documentary evidence, but I do remember thinking at the time how easy it was.
I hope this helps.
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Richie-from-the-Boro wrote: »PIP - there are 2 types of MOBILITY ACTIVITIES - this is #1 Moving around.
a. Can stand and then move more than 200 metres, either aided or unaided. 0 points
b. Can stand and then move more than 50 metres but no more than 200 metres, either aided or unaided. 4 points
c. Can stand and then move unaided more than 20 metres but no more than 50 metres. 8 points
d. Can stand and then move using an aid or appliance more than 20 metres but no more than 50 metres. 10 points
e. Can stand and then move more than 1 metre but no more than 20 metres, either aided or unaided. 12 points
f. Cannot, either aided or unaided, – (i) stand; or (ii) move more than 1 metre. 12 points
Blue Badge - there are 2 types of BB ELIGIBILITY CRITERIA - #1 without Further Assessment, and #2 subject to Further Assessment’.
a. The high rate gets a walk through to #1 without Further Assessment
b. Anything other than #1 automatically gets #2 subject to Further Assessment, and the PIP assessment criteria is shadowed
In terms of the practical day to day operation of BB applications and 'subject to Further Assessment' testing, most LA's did not have a formal policy of gathering information, nor testing for, good and bad day distribution. As far as I'm aware there is no national directive to incorporate the gathering and testing of 'good and bad days' though certainly the Ombudsman has advised various LA's to allow their O/T's and other assessors to gather and test for and to include this in their formal policy.
On a different subject I note Andy is back and active !
Standard pip rate also automatically gets you BB too.0 -
I got my badge before I got pip tooI am responsible me, myself and I alone I am not the keeper others thoughts and words.0
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My OH has a bluebadge for Fibro and other things. We often get funny looks/comments when we park in disabed spaces (we're both in our early 30's..)0
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