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Hi need some advice about the wonderful Parking eye(not)I was due to pick up my son at the Southampton ferry terminal after a school trip to the IOW, as I was a little early I dropped my wife at the terminal and looked for a place to park unfortunately there were no parking spaces so I parked in the free 15 minute parking bay, as there were no parking officers I stayed in the vehicle until my wife phoned me to pick her up at the terminal this was after 30 minutes. Subsequently I have know received a PCN from parking eye stating that I owed £100 for not purchasing a ticket, the PCN has a picture of my vehicle entering and leaving the car park, apparently you have to enter your vehicle registration at the pay point, even though I was there longer than expected I can't believe how sneaky these companies are getting to extract our hard earned Wonga, do I have any options apart from pay the charge? Cheers.:(
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Same choice as easy every other thread on here. Yours is no different and the advice on other threads is just as applicable to you as others.
Whether or not you transgressed, the charge is excessive. Read a few threads and comeback with any things you don't understand.0 -
Have a look at this 'walk-through' of the process you now need to follow. It's a generic template, which avoids me having to type it out every time we have a 'newbie' query. Most of it will apply to you. Get back if you don't understand anything.
A WALK THROUGH THE PROCESS
Firstly, you don't have to pay the charge, it is not a fine, it is not a penalty, it is a speculative invoice from a Private Parking Company that has no statutory authority. However, you will need to go through a few hoops to get rid of it.
The first thing you MUST do is to start to understand what all this stuff is about. The only way to do this is to spend a day or so reading this forum - the most recent threads, say from the past month. If you see the advice 'IGNORE' you MUST ignore it. Ignoring a Parking Charge Notice will bring you months of fun and games that I can assure you, you don't want to be dealing with.
In a nutshell this is the process you will need to follow.
1. Read recent threads.
2. If the parking incident was at a retail park/shop go back to the store the Parking Charge Notice relates to and see THE manager, complain about a genuine customer being harassed and ask that they cancel the ticket. Show him/her any receipts for the day in question. If they are unable to do this ask for the name and address of the MD/CEO, as you will now write to them (and DO it!).
3. If it was a general car parking facility you need to find out who the landowner is (Google search) and send off a letter of complaint to them.
4. If you have receipts for the day (or bank/credit card statements) proving purchases, send (redacted) copies of them to PPC with covering letter stating you were a customer on the day, and shopping at their principal's establishment was the only cause of any overstay.
5. If 2, 3 or 4 above don't work, then you're into the more formal stuff.
6. If it was a windscreen ticket, do not contact the PPC at this point, you must wait for the 'Notice to Keeper' (NtK) to arrive. This should be no sooner than 28 days after the incident and no later than 56 days after it. Theses dates are very important, and you must retain all tickets and letters you receive.
7. If it was an ANPR camera incident and the first correspondence you've received is the NtK, this needs to be received within 14 days of the incident; as above, dates very important, retain all paperwork.
8. Once you receive the NtK the process below will need to be followed.
9. Soft appeal to the PPC (you'll understand this when you start reading the threads).
10. Likely rejection, so in your soft appeal you ask that a POPLA code be given to you if your soft appeal is rejected.
11. Lots more reading about POPLA Appeals (read the 'sticky' at the top of the forum index 'POPLA Decisions', especially the last couple of months' reports of victories - it will give you a good idea of which points win at POPLA).
12. Draft POPLA Appeal and let us see it for further advice before submission.
13. Send to POPLA.
14. Await POPLA (positive) result with PCN cancelled - we're running at 100% success rate on the forum. A POPLA decision is binding on the PPC, but (in the event of an unlikely loss), not binding on you.
Please confirm a couple of things (if they are not already contained in your opening post)
a. Was the incident, and do you live, in England or Wales?
b. Is the car a lease/hire or company vehicle (important as the process will be slightly different and you will need to act quickly)?
c. Are you under 18?
Now - final, but IMPORTANT points.
* Never say who might or might not have been the driver on the day - there is no obligation on you to do so (some PPCs will ask you to name the driver/motorist before they can deal with your appeal - DO NOT comply with their wishes). In any correspondence with the PPC, always refer to the driver in the third person, never say 'I didn't see the signs' or 'my wife didn't see the signs', you say 'the driver didn't see the signs'.
* Always be aware of any deadlines, PPCs impose them (most of these are challengeable), but if they are reasonable do keep to them. The important one is the POPLA deadline - strictly 28 days from the date the rejection letter containing the POPLA verification code is sent to you by the PPC. Miss it and you miss the one golden opportunity you have to totally kill this charge. I cannot stress that enough.
CONTEXTUAL LINKS
1. BPA Code of Practice
http://www.britishparking.co.uk/write/Documents/AOS/609_AOS_CoP_June_2013_update.pdf
2. BPA Approved Operators
http://www.britishparking.co.uk/Approved-Operators
3. POPLA
http://www.popla.org.uk
Sorry this is a bit long, but it does more or less cover most bases.Please note, we are not a legal advice forum. I personally don't get involved in critiquing court case Defences/Witness Statements, so unable to help on that front. Please don't ask. .
I provide only my personal opinion, it is not a legal opinion, it is simply a personal one. I am not a lawyer.
Give a man a fish, and you feed him for a day; show him how to catch fish, and you feed him for a lifetime.Private Parking Firms - Killing the High Street0 -
Hi need some advice about the wonderful Parking eye(not)I was due to pick up my son at the Southampton ferry terminal after a school trip to the IOW, as I was a little early I dropped my wife at the terminal and looked for a place to park unfortunately there were no parking spaces so I parked in the free 15 minute parking bay as there were no parking officers I stayed in the vehicle until my wife phoned me to pick her up at the terminal this was after 30 minutes. and leaving
Subsequently I have know received a PCN from parking eye stating that I owed £100 for not purchasing a ticket, the PCN has a picture of my vehicle entering and leaving the car park, apparently you have to enter your vehicle registration at the pay point, even though I was there longer than expected I can't believe how sneaky these companies are getting to extract our hard earned Wonga, do I have any options apart from pay the charge? Cheers.:(
Loads of options and you won't be paying!
Is this site part of Town Quay, owned by the Port Authority? If so read this:
http://forums.pepipoo.com/index.php?showtopic=83433
The whole area and approach roads are covered by Port Authority byelaws so ParkingEye CANNOT establish any registered keeper liability. The site is not 'relevant land' under the Protection of Freedoms Act 2010.
If this is the same site then follow the same advice as above NOT INFERRING WHO WAS DRIVING!!!!!!!!
If PE reject the registered keeper's challenge saying that you 'are not liable, this is not relevant land under POFA and PE have made no loss' then you can have fun with a POPLA appeal with our help. We win every time.PRIVATE 'PCN'? DON'T PAY BUT DON'T IGNORE IT (except N.Ireland).
CLICK at the top or bottom of any page where it says:
Home»Motoring»Parking Tickets Fines & Parking - read the NEWBIES THREAD0 -
umkomaas....
Do you not think you're overcomplicating it all???
Surely it's
1. Appeal to PPC [and lose]
2. Appeal to POPLA [and win]
IMO many people reading your post will just think....Christ, I'll just pay, it's a lot easier.0 -
Computersaysno wrote: »umkomaas....
Do you not think you're overcomplicating it all???
Surely it's
1. Appeal to PPC [and lose]
2. Appeal to POPLA [and win]
IMO many people reading your post will just think....Christ, I'll just pay, it's a lot easier.
Ask the people who've been helped by it.
Or whenever a newbie comes on in a panic and has no idea what to do, you post up your condensed version (and then answer the endless questions!).
I developed the Walk Through because of the basic questions I was answering - ad nauseam - Groundhog Day, each day, every day!
So I think I'll leave newbies to you in future - good luck!
And actually, you're absolutely right, paying is a lot easier.Please note, we are not a legal advice forum. I personally don't get involved in critiquing court case Defences/Witness Statements, so unable to help on that front. Please don't ask. .
I provide only my personal opinion, it is not a legal opinion, it is simply a personal one. I am not a lawyer.
Give a man a fish, and you feed him for a day; show him how to catch fish, and you feed him for a lifetime.Private Parking Firms - Killing the High Street0 -
Fair enough. You're stuffed if you do, and stuffed if you don't...:)
It was much easier when the advice consisted of 'ignore everything'.0 -
Computersaysno wrote: »umkomaas....
Do you not think you're overcomplicating it all???
Surely it's
1. Appeal to PPC [and lose]
2. Appeal to POPLA [and win]
IMO many people reading your post will just think....Christ, I'll just pay, it's a lot easier.
Totally disagree. I have seen so many people helped on here and this check list is a great way to put them on the right track.
Do you seriously think that your 2 point suggestion is of the slightest help to newbies who haven't a clue as what to do?
In fact, I would suggest to Umkomaas to add the link to POPLA and BPA CoP web sites as "these might help" at the bottom of his excellent check list, not make any reductions.0 -
Computersaysno wrote: »umkomaas....
Do you not think you're overcomplicating it all???
Surely it's
1. Appeal to PPC [and lose]
2. Appeal to POPLA [and win]
IMO many people reading your post will just think....Christ, I'll just pay, it's a lot easier.
And then people would:
- appeal too soon to a windscreen ticket
- appeal even if it's a non-AOS member, handing out their details on a plate!
- appeal even if in Scotland or NI
- appeal implying or stating who was driving, like naïve numpties
- appeal pointlessly when no letter might ever arrive (I have had 2 like that)
- miss out the very important complaint to the retailers (which is how PPC World will be brought down in the end).PRIVATE 'PCN'? DON'T PAY BUT DON'T IGNORE IT (except N.Ireland).
CLICK at the top or bottom of any page where it says:
Home»Motoring»Parking Tickets Fines & Parking - read the NEWBIES THREAD0 -
Coupon-mad wrote: »- appeal pointlessly when no letter might ever arrive (I have had 2 like that)
If I was a PPC I'd see your details and forget about sending a letter as well!0 -
I like to think that was the case!
Maybe the car park numpty saw my pepipoo tattoos and ripped up their copies (only joking!).PRIVATE 'PCN'? DON'T PAY BUT DON'T IGNORE IT (except N.Ireland).
CLICK at the top or bottom of any page where it says:
Home»Motoring»Parking Tickets Fines & Parking - read the NEWBIES THREAD0
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