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Carers money and nursery.
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What £3000 debt caused by fraud? I don't have any debts, not even a credit card.
Yes it surprises me that they are allowed to get away without any checks being made.
I insist with my mum and dad that a daily diary is kept to prove exactly what each does for the other. This was suggested by their care manager from Social Services. It is done to show continuing care needs for the council's benefit, as well as to have a record for the DWP which I send in to them every year in respect of their carers claims.
But dad has refused to claim carers allowance Andy?
https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/4462349Its not that we have more patience as we grow older, its just that we're too tired to care about all the pointless drama0 -
Thank you all, I will pass information and advice regarding the diary. Have a good weekend all0
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But dad has refused to claim carers allowance Andy?
https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/4462349
Well spotted:D he or she has been outed again, this is the problem of having so many identities they forget what they post:T0 -
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princessdon wrote: »I'm sure the DWP care that you accepted £3000 fraudulently, have you repaid this?
I'm also pretty convinced the biggest fraud in carers allowance is married couples so badly disabled they need full time care themselves, yet care or each other.
OP what time does the parent pick up? Do the parents stay for a cuppa? Does she do any washing for the child etc.
sorry i dont agree,at one point me and mrs w claimed ca for each other,we have completely different problems and different care needs and they did in no way clash,we now claim sdp as a couple now for almost double the money:money:0 -
But dad has refused to claim carers allowance Andy?
https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/4462349
Yes he did, but subsequently I and Social Services convinced him otherwise. He has also put in a claim for Pension Credit on the basis of (a) he would lose out if he waited until UC came in and (b) their care manager told mum and dad to "claim as much as you can - everyone else does"
Dad won't actually get CA, but it bumps their minimum guarantee income up to £399.50 a week!!
So they are now maximising their entitlement and not being so stupid.
And stop calling me Andy! You all must have me confused with someone else!0 -
sorry i dont agree,at one point me and mrs w claimed ca for each other,we have completely different problems and different care needs and they did in no way clash,we now claim sdp as a couple now for almost double the money:money:
You can still claim carers allowance as long as it is not in payment - ie overlapping benefits.
Means Testing in that case gives you couple SDP + 2 x carers premiums.
For Guarantee Pension Credit that would give £217.90+£116.40+£32.60+£32.60=£399.50 plus whatever amounts of AA/DLA they also get. In mum & dad's case that is AA of £77.45 and DLA of £105.90, making a grand total of £582.85 a week.0 -
What £3000 debt caused by fraud? I don't have any debts, not even a credit card.
Yes it surprises me that they are allowed to get away without any checks being made.
I insist with my mum and dad that a daily diary is kept to prove exactly what each does for the other. This was suggested by their care manager from Social Services. It is done to show continuing care needs for the council's benefit, as well as to have a record for the DWP which I send in to them every year in respect of their carers claims.
i could write a daily diary saying i do almost anything ... doesnt mean that it would be true though0 -
im post 14 , tou appear outraged that couples claim carers allowance for each other so they can claim income support instead of JSA, now youre saying that you keep records to show your own parents care for each other for the required number of k for your own parents?
i could write a daily diary saying i do almost anything ... doesnt mean that it would be true though
In which case you would be lying and my parents would be telling the truth.
I get outraged if people manipulate the system to gain more money, but am quite happy if their circumstances as they stand without manipulation give an entitlement.
Surely submitting a annual report of what care on a week by week basis has been given is the least that anybody can do if they receive an income from the government to carry out that caring role.
But maybe, like you would do, tell the DWP a fairytale about what care was given and the hours involved.
I have a family member that lives about 350 miles away from an aged relative, yet for one week a month they drive there and back and spend the whole week sorting out the relative's problems and giving constant care. The other three weeks involves caring from a distance with paid carers looking after the relative.
If, as some have suggested, she was to count the hours for everything including travelling, telephoning etc, she would have relevant hours of 168 hours one week then three weeks of 10 hours a week each.
Over a period of 4 weeks she would care for the relative for 198 hours and not be entitled to CA. Yet someone that cares for 35 hours a week - 140 hours over a 4 week period would receive £233.80 from the government.
I ask the question who provides the most care?0 -
In which case you would be lying and my parents would be telling the truth.
I get outraged if people manipulate the system to gain more money, but am quite happy if their circumstances as they stand without manipulation give an entitlement.
Surely submitting a annual report of what care on a week by week basis has been given is the least that anybody can do if they receive an income from the government to carry out that caring role.
But maybe, like you would do, tell the DWP a fairytale about what care was given and the hours involved.
I have a family member that lives about 350 miles away from an aged relative, yet for one week a month they drive there and back and spend the whole week sorting out the relative's problems and giving constant care. The other three weeks involves caring from a distance with paid carers looking after the relative.
If, as some have suggested, she was to count the hours for everything including travelling, telephoning etc, she would have relevant hours of 168 hours one week then three weeks of 10 hours a week each.
Over a period of 4 weeks she would care for the relative for 198 hours and not be entitled to CA. Yet someone that cares for 35 hours a week - 140 hours over a 4 week period would receive £233.80 from the government.
I ask the question who provides the most care?
I remember that user name you had Andy as followsI questioned the Carers Service (DWP) about this very same thing.
In my case I provide care for a relative that lives 300+ miles away.
Approx one week in every month I spend a total 78 hours caring (approx 30 hours of driving and 48 hours of being with him in his own home) for the relative. My wife in that same week spends another 119 hours caring for the same relative.
Additionally, in the intervening three weeks or so, I spend an average of about 15 hours a week sorting out all of his paperwork, bank, letters, medical appointments etc. as well as a minimum of 3 telephone calls a week (which last at least an hour each time).
The Carers Service would not accept my claim for Carers Allowance as the care provided is not on a regular weekly basis and that when looking at the overall care package, it only amounts to 12 weeks a year that the 35 hour rule is reached.
I was not allowed to make a claim 'as and when' or indeed 'average' out the hours - it had to be a regular min 35 hours each week throughout the year.
I arrived back on Saturday after another 'caring week' which has seen another 1400 miles added onto the car! The start of the next 1400 miles will be on the 17th August.Its not that we have more patience as we grow older, its just that we're too tired to care about all the pointless drama0
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