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Is this a scam or real job?
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100% a scam - could be an advance fee scam, a cash handling scam or harvesting details.US housing: it's not a bubble - Moneyweek Dec 12, 20050
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here is the other piece that come with the other email
Job Application Form
United Kingdom
This Agreement is a Contract between you (hereinafter referred to as the “Employee”) and Wagner Business Group (hereinafter referred to as the “Company”) "we", "our" or "us" as appropriate.
This Agreement describes your and our rights and responsibilities in the context of providing services related for the
Accounting Clerk training courses.
NOW, THEREFORE, in consideration of the mutual covenants herein contained, the Parties hereto agree as follows:
1. SUBJECT OF THE AGREEMENT
1.1. The present Agreement comes into force and is considered valid provided the following conditions are observed:
1.2. The Agreement is signed by both parties or all incurred terms and conditions are observed by the Client.
2. GENERAL TERMS OF THE AGREEMENT
2.1. The Parties acknowledge the legal force of documents' records received via communication channels equal and as effective as the documents made in writing.
3. LIABILITIES OF THE PARTIES
3.1. Accounting Clerk is liable to:
3.1.1. Follow the provisions of the present Agreement
3.1.2. Provide and confirm the following data:
3.1.2.1. Legal status of the residence in the country.
3.1.2.2. Bank account valid for accepting payments from company side for the job and money for the training courses.
3.1.2.3. Telephone number available to be contacted by the Senior Manager.
3.1.3. Devote 2-3 business hours per day of free time to be spent for training courses.
3.1.4. Receive money on his/her account for the following purposes: salary, money for the training, payment for taxes and
fees to Employee from Company.
3.2. COMPANY AGREES
3.2.1. To follow all the provisions of the Agreement.
3.2.2. Starting salary is £400 per week (full -time) and £340 per week (part - time) , paid in biweekly installments by your choice of check or direct deposit.
3.2.3.. Performance Bonuses: Up to three percent of your annual gross salary, paid quarterly by your choice of check or direct deposit. The training period wage shall amount £300 for 10 training days, £30 for each training day.
3.2.4. To provide Employee with all company benefits during the training period.
3.2.5. To advise Employee on all questions related to cooperation during the period of the Agreement as stipulated herein.
4. BENEFITS
Company benefits shall include:
4.1 Agency Worker Regulations 2010
4.2 Annual stock options
4.3 Child daycare assistance
4.4 Education assistance
4.5 Health, dental, life and disability insurance
4.6 Sick leave
4.7 Vacation and personal days
4.8 Money from company side for all purposes related to the job: Internet, cell phone, training, bank fees and taxes.
5. LIABILITIES OF THE PARTIES
5.1. The Parties bear responsibility for non-performance or inadequate performance of their liabilities in the context of the present Agreement in accordance with the governing law of the UK and with respect of the provisions of the present Agreement.
6. FORCE MAJEURE
6.1. Neither Party shall be liable for any delay or nonperformance of any provision of the present Agreement due to force majeure circumstances arising after the date of conclusion of the Agreement.
6.2. The following circumstances shall be acknowledged as force majeure events: fire, explosion, flood or other natural and industrial catastrophe; terror; warfare; strikes or labor difficulties; other unforeseen or precluded circumstances preventing the Parties to follow their liabilities stipulated by the Agreement.
6.3. The Party shall notify the other as promptly as practicable, but no later than 3 (three) working days of the occurrence of a force majeure event herewith. Failure or the delay to notify the other Party of force majeure events shall not release the Party from its liabilities hereunder.
7. PERSONAL INFORMATION
First name:
Last name:
Date of Birth:
Nationality/language skills
Address (On this address will be shipped local supervisor ID Card for training courses)
City:
Postal Code:
Country: United Kingdom
Home phone: +44 ( ) -
Available on the phone from: (AM/PM) till (AM/PM)
Cell phone: +44 ( ) -
Available on the phone from: (AM/PM) till (AM/PM)
E-Mail address:
Work experience (not obligatory):
8. ACCOUNT INFORMATION
On this account you will receive money for the training courses from the company side and money for your job (daily or weekly). All given information as strictly confidential will not be shared with any third parties. If you don’t want to provide us your own account information, just open a new one personal account and provide us with new account information.
Bank name
9. ADDITIONAL INFORMATION
After the first part of the training in e-Commerce Services for payment systems I will be available to meet my manager face to face in my local area for the continuation of the training.
IN WITNESS WHEREOF the undersigned have executed this Agreement as of the day and year first written above. The parties hereto agree that facsimile and E-mail signatures shall be as effective as if originals.
Wagner Business Group Employee
Daniel R. Johnson0 -
Just found out that the company changed their name: wackerfinancial.com
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cimarroncorp.com0 -
In my opinion this is a scam.
They say they opened their American office in 1988 yet the website was only created on the 13th of January 2012. That's less than a week ago. Any company worth the amount that Wagner are claiming would have created an internet presence long ago.
The address given on the Domain Registration has been hidden behind a privacy service. Which obviously means they've got something to hide.
http://whois.domaintools.com/wagnerbusiness.com
That doesn't really surprise me though because if you look at the picture of their head office here:
http://www.wagnerbusiness.com/images/building_right.jpg
and compare it to the picture I found on Google Maps you'll notice a few subtle differences. :rotfl:
http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla:en-GB:official&channel=s&hl=en&q=83+Dan+Road,+Canton,+Massachusetts+02021&gs_upl=3499l3499l0l4867l1l1l0l0l0l0l453l453l4-1l1l0&um=1&ie=UTF-8&ei=3FMYT8bVKoODtQaNsfXADQ&sa=X&oi=mode_link&ct=mode&cd=3&ved=0CA8Q_AUoAg
They say they have main offices in Canada, the US and the Isle of Man and subsidiary offices in Switzerland, Spain, Tokyo, Cyprus and France. Yet, apart from the dubious US one, no addresses are provided. And I can't find any on a Google search either.
According to one of their 'press' releases, Bridge Business Bancorp is an operating division of Wagner Business Group. Bloomberg Businessweek says otherwise. Bloomberg say it is a subsidiary of Bridge Finance Group.
http://investing.businessweek.com/research/stocks/private/snapshot.asp?privcapId=42220308
http://investing.businessweek.com/research/stocks/private/snapshot.asp?privcapId=12677822
I haven't checked the other 'press' releases but I would hazard a guess that they're a pack of lies as well.
Have you noticed there's no phone number either?
The cruncher for me though was when I put the photo of smiling executives on the Contact page into Google Images and got:
http://www.google.co.uk/search?tbs=sbi:AMhZZisqVXktLjZkxuTx7Pve7JJx2kSiKrKpOiklEkabDCyi0Sc9XG_1xU2xRqlEsQJUA-X-ZNeifxTE4lvD6BRBN8cYURZPRUszGf5VgkZOpPjQgKy0GexuLdb3yOEBkPHEMBpExqqOqowhHsIrooT2jmqjDVB3qCvEPRDYYPqa_1QLS37s6LspMhHqikFUS2CJksfUMS7HlZPvD_1mOys14cf6rTBnd1936bpwNLUhH32Bcp39HBqhmWLMmZ7MCi7jLh5FvG80WSNAqN6hlwCgaHzrtPZK2iXnCqU2wsXiNZnebZUslu-Jztnsa0x7KoCF9gKneZrpziSe5-o-SYFarIhVwpZ81TmwlpAr8bChp-8gr63k9xxM0pJtxfGd-MupsYkVSZ5KhqT3RMBFksvhjXatDoUkowy6cHUOxCgwvS2aM9rZIZo23R2_1JrRKh_1soRK2feKhpHt7VXzKK_1kl03WpVYfkZPke9Dy1sRrpxshIobMmMjRzzuFcnOnRjJTW09thyjrfGos90w9bSY_1U9-GkUFSCVmeQd5HUkLRZ-ht29aPyIco5bKXttDMB_1bWBGXKkO02rjZ4-oKO8DaIga8okUNNjEHOt1jllUCnqjVk_1SoHqIULbuy-HJLo5oiaM2CnWpBJl6skDU9KcOz8W_1BnmdUhmdYXv1J0IhIF61xaQVI2JqCNVWEJjLsC5phq_1Wbl6cvxYQLU9ipq8hJ3pNZn7pnxVXM-dJTBQZ8JiPGN3nwEaPzfHgx3XwVvnxst6yOFTvuBB-2r2PUc26x-JsfjCmHP5oxiB37nk8Tq0G4r03XNlBrO6QKb_1PbmFjJb0uP-gR9osFt4HJeRzWHtchDC1jD9QQXOn_1wvsdfhMCRg1ZZLZIA3VwwvkEXafsK2JOmESfUpwtOoEcZ1JrQq0oxyuj7H5WA1_13gSRYft5M5eFBaLupPFpCX0DQwI5A67fLPE8G9mPHR8vR6QRt0RUcvn2R-s7jVHb2nvfIVlyRGF3Owo52B_1hawFC9cNGsss7a9aXb-TV8w8Ue4Lt2HQtCmV9Oxez91JfBUlvrM4VkWx48RffJlu3h-8zsE0_1WvvurJlu7BSpn96S1c7agx5ZVmmG5UnTBb5IhI4eZHL5wMqEl3Bh2NcK2D59ayiH3bmbAatKyhXi5FHOmssTtFAmUCmkSvdqrKRAuo26IO1X7QR7PKi9UL2PhnjIclPmWkroJcTlK8nZSiLV76vTJE0f7aTEpjrxM0rqPUIL0KRaQ463N99vhaUHC0Q1w-YDCPNthjF_1Bj4RUcoEjSf0qeQvHqzeq1cr8SmknEPBZNFMXh3cLw6C_1PBKXuk&hl=en&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla:en-GB:official&biw=1280&bih=640&gbv=2&site=search&sa=X&ei=0lsYT8yBGZGjsgb8x72PDQ&ved=0CD8Q9Q8
This shows Fullerton General Financial and Wacker Financial Group with exactly the same home page templates. In fact there are a couple of other sites with the picture which are now offline. I would guess that the scam had run its course with them.
Remember that picture of their head office on the Contact page. Here's where they stole it from and guess what? It's in New York.
http://www.accesscapital.com/site/contact/
Do not confuse Access Capital with these Wagner shysters. Access Capital appear to be a perfectly legitimate and trustworthy company.0 -
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this isnt the picture that we found on google earth for
83 Dan Road, Canton, Massachusetts 020210 -
hi again,
just called Access Capital in the NY, where the photographs are from, and they never heard of Wagner or its associations.
TOTAL SCAM!
Good night everyone.0 -
Of course it's a scam. They don't even use proper English, have determined what wage to pay you part time without establishing the hours, and list objectives which make no sense in relation to the role.
If a large American corporation wanted to hire people on that sort of wage they would advertise properly, not send out badly worded emails with statements like "the company will pay for it all". What reputable company even needs to say that??
Keep away - the investigations aren't even worth the bother.
KiKi' <-- See that? It's called an apostrophe. It does not mean "hey, look out, here comes an S".0 -
Not even an American scam.
It stops there, once they have your bank details, your account will be subjected to an international money transfer request and boomf, your account is £10,000 overdrawn.
Works on banks securities of honouring agreements, these scams are beyond the comprehension of normal people and their knowledge of domestic banking .Hi, we’ve had to remove your signature. If you’re not sure why please read the forum rules or email the forum team if you’re still unsure - MSE ForumTeam0 -
If it sounds too good to be true, it probably is...~ Better mad with the rest of the world than wise alone.0
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