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    • Former MSE Wendy
    • By Former MSE Wendy 10th Jun 08, 5:50 PM
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    MONEY MORAL DILEMMA. Should Heather take the money and run?
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    • 10th Jun 08, 5:50 PM
    MONEY MORAL DILEMMA. Should Heather take the money and run? 10th Jun 08 at 5:50 PM
    Here's this week's hypothetical situation for you to cogitate on:

    Should Heather take the money and run?

    Heather's been offered £100 to take part in a specialised survey about accounting companies, meant for people in the business. However, as a glamour model, she has no knowledge of the field or the companies that operate in it; she was recommended to the surveyors by an accountant friend of hers, who promised she could make up the answers, but she's not sure about doing so. Should Heather take the money and run?

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    • Gorf123
    • By Gorf123 10th Jun 08, 9:50 PM
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    Should she take part? Absolutely!

    If it were for a charity or an industry where valid opinion can make a worthwhile difference, I'd be more reticent; but nor for accountants. If her inexperience bites anyone, it will be the bloke who recommended her. She should take the money.

    I don't suppose you know her number...?
  • Little Chicken
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    • 10th Jun 08, 9:52 PM
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    • 10th Jun 08, 9:52 PM
    Yeah - take the money....statistics bloody statistics n all that!
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    • russimp
    • By russimp 10th Jun 08, 9:57 PM
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    • 10th Jun 08, 9:57 PM
    Take the money and blag it!! These research companies have more money than sense and normally only give it out to people who are earning plenty anyway (and these people often end up completing these surveys during their work time, when they're already getting paid anyway. And I'm speaking from experience - I've done a few myself - kerr ching!!). It's truly amazing the amount of cash these companies chuck around to get the information they're after. In my line of work it's usually drug companies.

    Of course, as a glamour model, Heather may already be earning a fortune and a survey like this (which would take what? - 20/30 mins, usually??) might not be worth her while... but more than likely not, eh?!?

    Take the cash, 'Evva!!
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    • Dorrie
    • By Dorrie 11th Jun 08, 7:26 AM
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    • 11th Jun 08, 7:26 AM
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    • 11th Jun 08, 7:26 AM
    Definitely not! One - she would be lying, and two - she is taking money under false pretenses, which amounts to stealing.
    • bigpat
    • By bigpat 11th Jun 08, 8:32 AM
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    • 11th Jun 08, 8:32 AM
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    • 11th Jun 08, 8:32 AM
    Yes she should take part. It's up to the company to verify her credentials and maybe they should be ore selective in their recruitment. Anyway, they're going to take her opinions and make money by selling the results of their survey.
  • dangerouslyturquoise
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    • 11th Jun 08, 8:42 AM
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    • 11th Jun 08, 8:42 AM
    Yes, she should take part. It would make up for all the times Ciao has asked her loads of questions only to tell her she isn't "eligible for this survey". Not that I'm bitter, or anything.
  • Kazza1
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    • 11th Jun 08, 8:46 AM
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    • 11th Jun 08, 8:46 AM
    As a self-employed market researcher, I would definitely say that she should NOT take the money. A lot of market research is carried out by people like me - we are not big corporations.

    When we quote for a piece of work, we quote a fixed price. If we get someone who turns up who has clearly lied (but refuses to admit it), we then have the hassle of finding another person to make up the numbers and have to pay them too. This means that I am personally out of pocket. I'm sure, if the same thing happened to other people and their company deducted the costs from their wages, they would also agree that she should not take the money!

    It is also unlikely that she will be able to bluff her way through an in-depth interview or a focus group as these tend to be quite detailed so she probably won't even understand the questions. She will just end up feeling embarrassed.
    • Ebenezer_Screwj
    • By Ebenezer_Screwj 11th Jun 08, 8:48 AM
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    • 11th Jun 08, 8:48 AM
    Take the money
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    • 11th Jun 08, 8:48 AM
    The company concerned is offering the money based upon an independent recommendation so Heather need have no qualms about accepting the money. The question of any obligation to the accountant "friend" is of course her own business . . .
  • rickfick
    Complete the survey and stay honest!
    She should complete the survey so long as she does not provide false information or lie...

    ...unless the survey specifically asks if she falls into a certain category. Even if it does, she should tell the truth and take the reward.

    If the company leading the survey were so keen on targeting a specific cross-section of society, then they should have a way of measuring that.

    She can bag the cash, and leave with her conscience intact. It's win/win!!
    • olly300
    • By olly300 11th Jun 08, 10:53 AM
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    I don't see why there is a dilemma.

    If she is a glamour model then she is either self-employed or has set up her own limited company, like other sports stars and celebraties. This means she has a business and is likely to use an accountant at least once a year.

    While she may not know a lot about accountanting companies she just needs to tell the truth about her own business afairs and take the money.

    The only people who I've met who know a lot about accounting companies are accountants themselves, or people who run small businesses. The people who run small businesses who know a lot about accountants have generally had to change accountants a few times due to being unhappy with the service their previous accountant(s) provides.
    • JayD
    • By JayD 11th Jun 08, 10:54 AM
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    Well, I think she might find it quite interesting - I think I would!
    There is much to learn through the questions asked.

    Yes, she should take the money - 100 to complete a survey? Lead me to it!
    I did one a few years ago and only got paid 12 for it - I think it was on washing powder.

    Take the money, Heather and treat yourself. It will be quite an experience and nothing - even Heather's uninformed answers - is without its value.
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    If you are not sure about this then don't do it.
    • ade1982
    • By ade1982 11th Jun 08, 11:56 AM
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    Essentially, if the company are giving 100 to participants, they must be making an absolute mint to undertake the survey, so go for it!

    However, I have probably just said, in a round about way, that it is o.k. to steal from a supermarket, which I don't think is o.k.!
    • ringo_24601
    • By ringo_24601 11th Jun 08, 11:58 AM
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    haha, yes of course she should take it.

    I once 'earnt' £150 by sitting on a survey panel for expensive home gadgets. I had to lie about owning lots of flash designer stuff (although i did have a couple of them).

    Everyone else was lying too, we all chatted on the way back after about it. There's a lot of people who 'do the rounds' and make up fake names/jobs for the purposes of the surveys
  • ron81
    Why should she ltell a lie for 100

    Why would anyone lie period
    No wonder the moral fabric of this country is suffering

    If the boot was on the other foot,& it affected you directly & financially, those who agree might find then it wrong.

    As i said, those who tell lies think nothing of it & also contribute to everyone who suffers,
    The common answer is, every one else does it , that does not make it right,
  • ctomo1978
    in a one word answer....YES.
    obviously she should, my only concern would be other companies hassling her after she's given her details, as to get the 100, she'd have to give her address or even worse, bank details.
    But, as for the 100, yes
  • craig111desertmole
    Absolutely!!
    Any chance of getting some free money is not worth turning down. 100? If the company organising the survey can't be more selective about who has access to the questionaire then more fool them. Anyway, she might learn a thing or two and decide that a career change might be a good idea. Accounting for goodness sake? It's not rocket science is it. But then what is? (Apart from rocket science)
  • debbsie
    I say, 'Go For It' . . .

    unless it's Heather Mills, then she has enough money under false pretences anyway
    . . . there's debt you have to pay, and debt you can get away with . . know the difference . . they can't hang you for it!!!
  • barri
    Why should she ltell a lie for 100

    Why would anyone lie period
    No wonder the moral fabric of this country is suffering

    If the boot was on the other foot,& it affected you directly & financially, those who agree might find then it wrong.

    As i said, those who tell lies think nothing of it & also contribute to everyone who suffers,
    The common answer is, every one else does it , that does not make it right,
    Originally posted by ron81
    I agree. So far you are the first person to say "No". What has happened to honesty, honour etc.? The British used to be famed for theirword being their bond. No longer, it seems. (But where does one find surveys that pay? I've answered surveys lots of times, but was never offered money for it.) Barri.
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