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UK CPM - Fined for parking in my own space

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  • Fruitcake
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    edited 13 January 2020 at 4:32PM
    Redact your VRM!

    You might want to redact your address as well.

    There should be a "Head Lease" somewhere, and your lease/AST should comply/conform with that.

    You want your car whitelisted as well as a cancellation so you don't get any more scamvoices.

    Don't forget to complain to your MP as well about this unregulated scam.
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  • Coupon-mad
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    Yes, the HA can make the scammers cancel PCNs. They should not let the nasty ex-clampers, UKCPM near your cars, and had no right to foist them on you all.

    Ideas on how to word a proper complaint about a residential pointless parking firm, here:

    https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/5997200/pcm-company-introduced

    Get them removed by getting other residents together and complaining en masse.
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  • Bobb12345
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    I have edited the letter. REDACTED information.
  • Bobb12345
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    Hi Fruitcake,

    I spoke to my letting agent today about details of the lease. Could you advise further on how I go about getting hold of the head lease? All my AST states is that I have a parking space, it doesn't state which one is mine and as such that might cause difficulties. Is that enough?

    Would you be able to offer any advice? I want to ensure that all the i's are dotted and t's crossed if this trivial nonsense is to get to court. Many thanks.
  • The_Deep
    The_Deep Posts: 16,830 Forumite
    Read this

    [FONT=Times New Roman, serif][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]http://parking-prankster.blogspot.com/2016/11/residential-parking.html[/FONT][/FONT]

    [FONT=Times New Roman, serif]what does your lease/AST say about parking? Does it mention the need to display a permit? If not then it may take primacy over the self serving TnC of the scammer, and interfere with your lawful right to “quiet enjoyment” of your property, possible an offence under The Landlord and Tenants Acts.[/FONT]

    [FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Nine times out of ten these tickets are scams, so consider complaining to your MP., it can cause the scammer extra costs and work, and in some cases, cancellation.

    Parliament is well aware of the MO of these private parking companies, many of whom are former clampers, and on 15th March 2019 a Bill was enacted to curb the excesses of these shysters. Codes of Practice are being drawn up, an independent appeals service will be set up, and access to the DVLA's date base more rigorously policed, persistent offenders denied access to the DVLA database and unable to operate.

    Hopefully life will become impossible for the worst of these scammers, but until this is done you should still complain to your MP, citing the new legislation.

    http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/2019/8/contents/enacted

    Just as the clampers were finally closed down, so hopefully will many of these Private Parking Companies.[/FONT]
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  • Bobb12345
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    Hi The Deep,

    I have read my AST and it says the following about parking:

    19 Car Parking
    To park private vehicle(s) only at the premises.
    19.1 To park in the space allocated to the premises, if the Tenant is allocated a car parking space.
    19.1 To park in the garage or the driveway to the premises if applicable.
    19.2 To keep any garage, driveway, or parking space free of oil and to pay for the removal and cleaning of any spillage caused by a vehicle of the Tenant, his family, contractors or visitors.
    19.3 To remove all vehicles belonging to the Tenant, his family or visitors at the end of the tenancy.
    19.4 Not to park any vehicle at the premises that is not in road worthy condition and fully taxed.

    There is definitely no mention of any permit needing to be displayed.
    I have written to my MP as well about this. They simply cannot be allowed to act like this.
    Hopefully, if I keep enough pressure on people then things will eventually fold.
    Many thanks.
  • Coupon-mad
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    Glad to see you are fighting back. PPCs have NO place in residential car parks.
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  • Bobb12345
    Bobb12345 Posts: 76 Forumite
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    Coupon-mad,

    Too right I'm fighting back against this monstrous waste of time, who think they can 'pull one over' on the law abiding peaceful parking public. I hold the PPC and the MA for the flats equally liable in this case. As of this moment, the MA haven't responded to the email I sent (detailed above). If I get no response today, I will be phoning them tomorrow.
  • nosferatu1001
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    19.1 To park in the space allocated to the premises, if the Tenant is allocated a car parking space. -> so how do you know yo uhave a space? You have made a claim ("All my AST states is that I have a parking space") yet that excerpt has a massive IF clause in it.
  • DoaM
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    Post #6 is where OP states that they are allocated a space. I agree that the OP needs to make sure the evidence to support that claim is clear and available (in writing).
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