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    • WolfUK
    • By WolfUK 9th Apr 18, 7:13 PM
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    Virgin charge for missed calls!
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    • 9th Apr 18, 7:13 PM
    Virgin charge for missed calls! 9th Apr 18 at 7:13 PM
    Hi

    I have been changed £1.20 x17 for calls missed when I was in the USA. I did not answer any of these calls but Virgin said that as I “received” these calls they are right to charge me.

    This is the first time from any mobile company I have had this issue is this right? Have others had this issue?

    Richard
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    • d123
    • By d123 9th Apr 18, 7:29 PM
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    • 9th Apr 18, 7:29 PM
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    • 9th Apr 18, 7:29 PM
    Hi

    I have been changed £1.20 x17 for calls missed when I was in the USA. I did not answer any of these calls but Virgin said that as I “received” these calls they are right to charge me.

    This is the first time from any mobile company I have had this issue is this right? Have others had this issue?

    Richard
    Originally posted by WolfUK
    If you're roaming and have a divert set, the call bounces back to the UK to your answerphone.

    Here's an explanation (on the EE website, but same principle)

    If you leave your voicemail turned on when you roam abroad outside the EU, any missed calls you may get, the caller will be diverted to your voicemail as normal. However, as the voicemail platform is located in the UK, when roaming with your handset outside the EU, this in turn will always generate an international call back to the UK.

    Those calls to voicemail you are seeing on your bill are these automatic diverts.

    It's always advisable to turn off your voicemail when roaming to stop this from happening.
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    • pmduk
    • By pmduk 9th Apr 18, 9:26 PM
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    • 9th Apr 18, 9:26 PM
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    • 9th Apr 18, 9:26 PM
    D123 is right, you need to cancel all diverting before roaming else you incur these charges.

    The network has bounced these calls to the US then back your voicemail hence the charge.

    I suspect your best bet is to ask a CSA very nicely to waive them on a one-off basis, (providing you're not on record for having kicked off about them already).

    Otherwise, the charges are legitimate and will stand, no matter who considers them.
    Last edited by pmduk; 09-04-2018 at 9:32 PM.
    • WolfUK
    • By WolfUK 9th Apr 18, 10:20 PM
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    • 9th Apr 18, 10:20 PM
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    • 9th Apr 18, 10:20 PM
    Thanks for the replies. So even if no voice mails are left and it!!!8217;s just a missed call I will get these charges?

    I did have voice mail turned off hence I!!!8217;m confused
    • eDicky
    • By eDicky 10th Apr 18, 5:51 AM
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    • 10th Apr 18, 5:51 AM
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    • 10th Apr 18, 5:51 AM
    I did have voice mail turned off hence I!!!8217;m confused
    Originally posted by WolfUK
    If voicemail and any other diverts are disabled and you miss or reject incoming calls while roaming, there should be no charge. Unless Virgin are doing something very underhand. I think you need to check into it further.
    Last edited by eDicky; 10-04-2018 at 5:57 AM.
    • nyermen
    • By nyermen 10th Apr 18, 7:12 AM
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    • 10th Apr 18, 7:12 AM
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    • 10th Apr 18, 7:12 AM
    Just a thought - don't confuse "voicemail being disabled at the network" with "call divert to voicemail" being enabled on the call forwarding setttings. I'm guessing under call forwarding settings, it's still dialing whatever the voicemail number is (even though it probably then cuts off since the voicemail itself is disabled). I sometimes divert all calls to my work mobile, even though underlying voicemail is still enabled.

    I'd go for asking them to waive charges, on the basis that both these are their network settings.
    Peter

    Debt free - finally finished paying off £20k + Interest.
    • WolfUK
    • By WolfUK 10th Apr 18, 9:10 AM
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    • 10th Apr 18, 9:10 AM
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    • 10th Apr 18, 9:10 AM
    I guess I will have to call them back just wanted to check if I was right. Even on there Roaming page it says s you won!!!8217;t be charged for left voice mails too so I think there must be a mistake.

    https://help.virginmedia.com/system/templates/selfservice/vm/help/customer/locale/en-GB/portal/200300000001000/article/HELP-2562/Roaming
    • redux
    • By redux 10th Apr 18, 11:08 AM
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    • 10th Apr 18, 11:08 AM
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    • 10th Apr 18, 11:08 AM
    A few years ago, the EU banned all charges for receiving voicemail while roaming within the EU.

    Some but not all networks have extended this to roaming anywhere.

    On some it might, or perhaps used to, depend whether the forwarding is for all calls (for instance you divert before leaving the country) or conditional (on busy, not available, etc).

    But that page you've found seems to indicate Virgin say they won't charge, without any qualifying comments, so I think you would be right to discuss it.

    However, it's worth checking, were your calls diverted to their standard voicemail, or condionally diverted to some other number, another voicemail system, or another mobile or VoIP account?
    • WolfUK
    • By WolfUK 16th Apr 18, 7:09 PM
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    • 16th Apr 18, 7:09 PM
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    • 16th Apr 18, 7:09 PM
    Little update Virgin have admitted that their wording and policy is confusing. If Found after an internal investigation that this is indeed correct across company they would look at reimbursing everyone for these charges.
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