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    • MSE Callum
    • By MSE Callum 4th Apr 18, 3:28 PM
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    MSE News: Virgin Atlantic launches two credit cards - but how do they compare to BA cards?
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    • 4th Apr 18, 3:28 PM
    MSE News: Virgin Atlantic launches two credit cards - but how do they compare to BA cards? 4th Apr 18 at 3:28 PM
    Virgin Atlantic has relaunched two airline credit cards allowing customers to earn a free flight upgrade or companion ticket. They're good for Virgin collectors but don't have the 'wow' factor of the longstanding British Airways cards...
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    • femster82
    • By femster82 4th Apr 18, 3:51 PM
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    • 4th Apr 18, 3:51 PM
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    • 4th Apr 18, 3:51 PM
    Will the MBNA cards still work or are they getting rid of them?

    This is a much worse deal. I might just get rid of it.
    • stevenhp1987
    • By stevenhp1987 4th Apr 18, 6:50 PM
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    • 4th Apr 18, 6:50 PM
    Will the MBNA cards still work or are they getting rid of them?

    This is a much worse deal. I might just get rid of it.
    Originally posted by femster82
    They will continue to work for now, but they'll go at some point, the same as all non-amex issued amex cards will (are there any left now that you can apply for?!).
    • glider3560
    • By glider3560 4th Apr 18, 7:02 PM
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    • 4th Apr 18, 7:02 PM
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    • 4th Apr 18, 7:02 PM
    I've collected a large number of Virgin Atlantic points from work trips. Annoying thing, compared to BA, is the very limited selection of destinations. Also, since their flights are long haul, you're looking at higher "taxes and charges" on most flights compared to redeeming on a short haul flight.

    • PeacefulWaters
    • By PeacefulWaters 4th Apr 18, 7:06 PM
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    • 4th Apr 18, 7:06 PM
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    • 4th Apr 18, 7:06 PM
    I've collected a large number of Virgin Atlantic points from work trips. Annoying thing, compared to BA, is the very limited selection of destinations. Also, since their flights are long haul, you're looking at higher "taxes and charges" on most flights compared to redeeming on a short haul flight.
    Originally posted by glider3560
    Apparently KLM and Air France will become options at some point.
    • skybluearmyontour
    • By skybluearmyontour 11th Apr 18, 12:44 PM
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    • 11th Apr 18, 12:44 PM
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    • 11th Apr 18, 12:44 PM
    I am a MBNA 'white card' user - I have been considering ditching for some time. I have around 90,000 miles but whenever I go to select Virgin flights - it ends up costing more than if I went with another airline without using miles....

    Started collecting them as I flew to USA 4 years in a row and at the time Virgin were competitively priced...now I feel a bit trapped....
    • PeacefulWaters
    • By PeacefulWaters 11th Apr 18, 1:09 PM
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    • 11th Apr 18, 1:09 PM
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    • 11th Apr 18, 1:09 PM
    I am a MBNA 'white card' user - I have been considering ditching for some time. I have around 90,000 miles but whenever I go to select Virgin flights - it ends up costing more than if I went with another airline without using miles....

    Started collecting them as I flew to USA 4 years in a row and at the time Virgin were competitively priced...now I feel a bit trapped....
    Originally posted by skybluearmyontour
    I'm no Virgin expert, but if you're focusing on economy flights you'll find things tough.

    Perhaps switching miles to Hilton or other hotel groups will help you establish value. Or seek out Upper Class redemptions.
    • stevenhp1987
    • By stevenhp1987 11th Apr 18, 1:46 PM
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    • 11th Apr 18, 1:46 PM
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    • 11th Apr 18, 1:46 PM
    I am a MBNA 'white card' user - I have been considering ditching for some time. I have around 90,000 miles but whenever I go to select Virgin flights - it ends up costing more than if I went with another airline without using miles....

    Started collecting them as I flew to USA 4 years in a row and at the time Virgin were competitively priced...now I feel a bit trapped....
    Originally posted by skybluearmyontour
    95k miles for an upper class redemption, or 35k for premium to some locations.

    95k for upper class is good value. I booked 2x using 190k points to Cancun for around 1.1k in taxes and surcharges.

    There's a good article on HeadForPoints recently about Virgin redemptions.

    A good one is 75k First Class (not business!) return to Beijing.

    Give it a year or so and KLM/Air France should be redeemable.
    • Ben8282
    • By Ben8282 12th Apr 18, 5:55 AM
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    • 12th Apr 18, 5:55 AM
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    • 12th Apr 18, 5:55 AM
    A good one is 75k First Class (not business!) return to Beijing.
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    Originally posted by stevenhp1987
    With which airline? Virgin don't fly to Beijing and certainly don't and never have offered First Class on any flight.
    • glider3560
    • By glider3560 12th Apr 18, 7:11 AM
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    With which airline? Virgin don't fly to Beijing and certainly don't and never have offered First Class on any flight.
    Originally posted by Ben8282
    Air China: https://www.virginatlantic.com/gb/en/flying-club/partners/airlines/air-china.html

    Who knows what the taxes and charges will be, since you have to phone to book.

    I'm sort of miffed with all these airline frequent flyer schemes. The taxes and charges are almost always as much as booking another flight with another airline. The only Virgin redemption which doesn't seem to be like that, would be Hong Kong.

    • I love My Points
    • By I love My Points 12th Apr 18, 5:37 PM
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    I have just emailed Virgins Flying Club to find out if the old Black Amex card is being discontinued.
    As I pay an annual fee I suspect that the old cards will be cancelled on the renewal date.
    I fly Virgin frequently to the USA and have had many free Upper Class trips with them. I'm not convinced that the new cards are in fact a better deal. I hope I'm proved wrong. By the way had a B.A. card before and found it useless to book seats with points.
    • WillPS
    • By WillPS 12th Apr 18, 5:42 PM
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    I have just emailed Virgins Flying Club to find out if the old Black Amex card is being discontinued.
    As I pay an annual fee I suspect that the old cards will be cancelled on the renewal date.
    I fly Virgin frequently to the USA and have had many free Upper Class trips with them. I'm not convinced that the new cards are in fact a better deal. I hope I'm proved wrong. By the way had a B.A. card before and found it useless to book seats with points.
    Originally posted by I love My Points
    Regardless of what Virgin tell you, all non-Amex issued Amex cards in the EU are being discontinued, it is a case of when not if.

    The new cards are a significant improvement on the MBNA Visa cards and are by some measures the most generous non-Amex products on the market.
    • lev441
    • By lev441 13th Apr 18, 12:43 PM
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    Regardless of what Virgin tell you, all non-Amex issued Amex cards in the EU are being discontinued, it is a case of when not if.

    The new cards are a significant improvement on the MBNA Visa cards and are by some measures the most generous non-Amex products on the market.
    Originally posted by WillPS
    I would hardly say a significant improvement overall though.

    Currently with the MBNA black card, I get two premium economy upgrade vouchers when spending 10,000 as opposed to 1 voucher as well as earning 2 points per 1 as opposed to 1.5 miles on the new card. Both cards have pretty worthless 2for1 vouchers (unless gold on the newer cards)
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