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    • James PD.
    • By James PD. 7th Mar 18, 12:06 AM
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    Advice on changing my first name legally
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    • 7th Mar 18, 12:06 AM
    Advice on changing my first name legally 7th Mar 18 at 12:06 AM
    I want to change my name but keep my middle name and last name. I don't mind my first name but I want to legally be known as the name I want to be identified as always.

    I don't mind paying for a deed poll but I'm wondering about how do I make it legal and what are the consequences in the future.

    What is the best way to inform the bank, doctors, etc, do I go to the various places and show the deed poll to the person at the main desk or just send one via post with a letter? How long do the different places roughly take to update someone's information?

    Will there ever be any need to mention to anyone that I have changed my name in the future? For example, if I want to get a loan, buy a house, buy a new car, etc. If people ask my name do I ever need to mention my previous first name?

    Thank you, James.
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    • Tom99
    • By Tom99 7th Mar 18, 3:13 AM
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    You can draft your own deed poll and have it witnessed for free and this will be valid to change your passport and driving licence but banks might require you to have a public record so you will need to enrol it via the court for 36.

    Some official forms will require you to state whether you were previously known under another name but apart from that there should be no reason to mention it to anyone unless you want to.

    Further info here:

    https://www.gov.uk/change-name-deed-poll
    • Artytarty
    • By Artytarty 7th Mar 18, 8:01 AM
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    • 7th Mar 18, 8:01 AM
    If you ever need to get a DBS check for child protection, eg as a youth leader, foster parent etc you!!!8217;ll need to disclose your previous name.
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    • James PD.
    • By James PD. 7th Mar 18, 11:47 PM
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    • 7th Mar 18, 11:47 PM
    Hi Tom,

    There is no requirement to enroll a deed poll, it is optional. The Deed Poll Office states: "It is neither a legal nor a practical requirement to enrol your deed poll."

    Once I receive my deed poll(s), what is the best method to inform the bank, doctors, etc that I have changed my name?
    • Tom99
    • By Tom99 8th Mar 18, 12:01 AM
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    • 8th Mar 18, 12:01 AM
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    • 8th Mar 18, 12:01 AM
    Hi Tom,

    There is no requirement to enroll a deed poll, it is optional. The Deed Poll Office states: "It is neither a legal nor a practical requirement to enrol your deed poll."

    Once I receive my deed poll(s), what is the best method to inform the bank, doctors, etc that I have changed my name?
    Originally posted by James PD.
    A letter with a copy of your deed poll and requesting an acknowledgement that they have updated your records.

    There might be an official form for passport or driving licence etc.

    You are right you don't need to enrol the poll for it to be valid but you might find banks require you to do so, maybe check with them first.

    What do you mean by 'receive' your deed poll? You can write it yourself for free there is no need to pay anyone for it and .gov gives you the exact template you need.
    • TonyMMM
    • By TonyMMM 8th Mar 18, 8:25 AM
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    • 8th Mar 18, 8:25 AM
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    • 8th Mar 18, 8:25 AM
    Your name is whatever you choose it to be, and in this case you are changing nothing - you are just choosing to not use a part of the name you were registered with.

    No deed poll, or any other action, is necessary.
    • James PD.
    • By James PD. 8th Mar 18, 5:46 PM
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    • 8th Mar 18, 5:46 PM
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    • 8th Mar 18, 5:46 PM
    A letter with a copy of your deed poll and requesting an acknowledgement that they have updated your records.

    There might be an official form for passport or driving licence etc.

    You are right you don't need to enrol the poll for it to be valid but you might find banks require you to do so, maybe check with them first.

    What do you mean by 'receive' your deed poll? You can write it yourself for free there is no need to pay anyone for it and .gov gives you the exact template you need.
    Originally posted by Tom99
    There is no reason to enroll a deed poll, all companies and organisations accept a certified copy. Only a small minority of people enroll their deed poll. Although technically there is no reason to pay a company because you can legitimately create your own deed poll, if you decide to do that method it could possibly cause some complications because it is not regarded as a certified copy.

    Your name is whatever you choose it to be, and in this case you are changing nothing - you are just choosing to not use a part of the name you were registered with.

    No deed poll, or any other action, is necessary.
    Originally posted by TonyMMM
    I want to make my current first name as my middle name and start using a different first name so I am going to have to get a deed poll.
    • maman
    • By maman 8th Mar 18, 6:14 PM
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    • 8th Mar 18, 6:14 PM
    It's my understanding that you can call yourself whatever you like provided there's no intention to defraud.


    In my case it was not wanting to use my married name. I just told my bank, doctor etc and they just accepted it. At my bank they put a note on file just in case anyone mistakenly wrote a cheque in my 'old' name.


    Sounds to me as if you have a burning reason to put this name behind you/adopt the new one so if it would make you feel happier to have a legal document then I'd go for the deed poll.
    • mgdavid
    • By mgdavid 8th Mar 18, 7:13 PM
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    • 8th Mar 18, 7:13 PM
    ...........
    I want to make my current first name as my middle name and start using a different first name so I am going to have to get a deed poll.
    Originally posted by James PD.
    is that not in contradiction to your OP which said:
    "I want to change my name but keep my middle name and last name."

    <confused>
    The questions that get the best answers are the questions that give most detail....
    • martinbuckley
    • By martinbuckley 8th Mar 18, 7:38 PM
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    Make your passport one of the last things you change as they require you to provide evidence of name usage in your new name.
    • James PD.
    • By James PD. 20th Mar 18, 9:24 AM
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    After all of my older records have been updated, will there be any reason to mention that I have changed my name to future places that I will register with for whatever reason?

    For example, I do not have my car license but I want to in the future, will I need to mention that I have changed my name?

    Or is it just simply the case of updating only informing places that have my previous name and just using my new name in the future without any mention of my old name?
    • bouicca21
    • By bouicca21 20th Mar 18, 11:35 AM
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    If you can crack the passport office, then everything else is easy.
    • mgdavid
    • By mgdavid 20th Mar 18, 11:36 AM
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    After all of my older records have been updated, will there be any reason to mention that I have changed my name to future places that I will register with for whatever reason?

    For example, I do not have my car license but I want to in the future, will I need to mention that I have changed my name?

    Or is it just simply the case of updating only informing places that have my previous name and just using my new name in the future without any mention of my old name?
    Originally posted by James PD.
    Yes you will, if they ask.
    I've seen application forms which require you to declare any other names you have been known by in the past.
    The questions that get the best answers are the questions that give most detail....
    • James PD.
    • By James PD. 20th Mar 18, 8:21 PM
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    I know that there will be some places that require you to declare any previous names you have used. Nevertheless, what I mean is that for example if I apply for a different job, a mortgage, etc, do I need to mention that I have changed my name?

    How often am I going to have mention that my first name used to be James?

    I have read that there is no problem with getting a new passport with a changed name as long as the deed poll is certified.

    Surely once everywhere has been updated with the change of name there is no reason to mention that you have changed your name unless you are asked e,g getting a new passport or a DBS check (previously known as the CRB check).
    • Tom99
    • By Tom99 21st Mar 18, 12:12 AM
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    Surely once everywhere has been updated with the change of name there is no reason to mention that you have changed your name unless you are asked e,g getting a new passport or a DBS check (previously known as the CRB check).
    Originally posted by James PD.
    That's how I would read it
    • Savvy_Sue
    • By Savvy_Sue 21st Mar 18, 1:30 AM
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    Once you've got a passport in your new name, an employer won't care about any previous names unless they need you do a DBS check - and even then they won't care about your old name - or ask to see educational certificates which have the original name on.
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    • James PD.
    • By James PD. 21st Mar 18, 5:30 AM
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    I have decided to use the UK Deed Poll Service because their issued Deed Poll is accepted everywhere. I know that you can essentially create your own DIY Deed Polls but using that method can create problems because not everywhere accepts them.

    I am aware of the different places that I will need to inform but is it advised to write a letter as well or just simply send the Deed Poll on its own in an envelope to the place where I need my information changed?

    Does anyone know how long for example the dentist and hospital take to update records? I would feel really silly booking an appointment at the doctors or the hospital using my name and then to be told that no record is showing up on their system.
    • Savvy_Sue
    • By Savvy_Sue 21st Mar 18, 12:43 PM
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    I'd write a letter as well: otherwise a Deed Poll arrives, and the person opening the post may not have the first clue what to do with it! Hospital, I'd include your NHS or hospital number if you have one, plus a note of which services you use even if you have those.

    How long? Who knows ... but if they can't find Fred Smith, you can always say "I used to be known as Frank Smith, please could you check that?"
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    • agatham
    • By agatham 22nd Mar 18, 7:42 AM
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    Hi James,

    You'll have to check this out - https://www.gov.uk/change-name-deed-poll

    Make sure that you change everywhere including your education certificates etc. You might have to put a message on Newspaper about the change in name (not sure if this is mandatory) but a good idea to display once you change your name.
    • Tabbytabitha
    • By Tabbytabitha 22nd Mar 18, 8:37 AM
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    I know that there will be some places that require you to declare any previous names you have used. Nevertheless, what I mean is that for example if I apply for a different job, a mortgage, etc, do I need to mention that I have changed my name?

    How often am I going to have mention that my first name used to be James?

    I have read that there is no problem with getting a new passport with a changed name as long as the deed poll is certified.

    Surely once everywhere has been updated with the change of name there is no reason to mention that you have changed your name unless you are asked e,g getting a new passport or a DBS check (previously known as the CRB check).
    Originally posted by James PD.
    From what you've said, you aren't changing your name, just using another one that you already have - not unlike choosing to be called Mick if your given name is Michael. You're overcomplicating things.
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