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    • dixonrussell
    • By dixonrussell 5th Mar 18, 6:37 PM
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    Tampered ATM discovered - Reward?
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    • 5th Mar 18, 6:37 PM
    Tampered ATM discovered - Reward? 5th Mar 18 at 6:37 PM
    Hi folks,

    On saturday I found a HSBC atm that had been tampered with to steal peoples cards using the "lebanese loop" method. Luckily the trap was already closed when I tried to use the machine so it didn't get me, and since discovering it I have reported it to the Police and had it dealt with.

    I've had it suggested to me by some people that I might be entitled to some form of reward from HSBC/Police for this discovery and report...however I don't know if this is true? If anyone knows anything extra regarding this topic I'd sure appreciate being educated!
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    • Browntoa
    • By Browntoa 5th Mar 18, 6:40 PM
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    I thought the ATMs had been modified these days to stop the loop
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    • dixonrussell
    • By dixonrussell 5th Mar 18, 6:42 PM
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    • 5th Mar 18, 6:42 PM
    I thought so too, got a video of the !!!!!!! The police said I got real lucky and that this particular one likely used a camera or keylogger that transmits the pin code to a wifi device nearby...crazy technology!

    My wondering is that I've just potentially saved the bank a whole bunch of headaches as it was on a fairly busy parade of shops/banks, would I get a reward for clocking it and reporting it immediately?
    • dixonrussell
    • By dixonrussell 5th Mar 18, 6:45 PM
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    • 5th Mar 18, 6:45 PM
    Here's the video of it here:

    https://www.facebook.com/russell.dixon.39/videos/10216107660148532/
    • mije1983
    • By mije1983 5th Mar 18, 6:46 PM
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    • 5th Mar 18, 6:46 PM
    The warm fuzzy feeling of stopping fellow humans being conned not enough then?

    • dixonrussell
    • By dixonrussell 5th Mar 18, 6:49 PM
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    • 5th Mar 18, 6:49 PM
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    • 5th Mar 18, 6:49 PM
    Hahaha not at all

    My folks made the suggestion and LINK last year said they were paying rewards for reporting these types of crimes, if these banks/companies have reward money aside for these things then it'd be silly not to ask, it's the banks money after all, not the peoples

    Personally I'm not fussed, I didn't even think about rewards until they suggested it xD
    • drphila
    • By drphila 5th Mar 18, 6:51 PM
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    • 5th Mar 18, 6:51 PM
    Out of interest, was the ATM outside a bank, and if so was the bank open?
    • dixonrussell
    • By dixonrussell 5th Mar 18, 6:52 PM
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    • 5th Mar 18, 6:52 PM
    It was outside the bank yes, and it was almost 6pm on Saturday so it wasn't open, I'd have gone straight into the branch if it were. Only option was to call 101.
    • Robisere
    • By Robisere 5th Mar 18, 8:04 PM
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    • 5th Mar 18, 8:04 PM
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    • 5th Mar 18, 8:04 PM
    Hope that is not your real name. Some of this type of crime is organised by gangs and it should be easy to find you. Keep your wits about you for a while and keep your legs in one piece!
    I think this job really needs
    a much bigger hammer.
    • mgdavid
    • By mgdavid 5th Mar 18, 9:51 PM
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    ...... it's the banks money after all, not the peoples .........
    Originally posted by dixonrussell
    no, the bank get their money from the customers; the more they pay out in compo or 'rewards' the more they need to get in customer charges.
    The questions that get the best answers are the questions that give most detail....
    • agrinnall
    • By agrinnall 5th Mar 18, 10:00 PM
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    I've never heard of any such reward being offered. I would be astonished, and disappointed, if the police did it, but there's no harm in asking HSBC, just be prepared for the answer to be No.
    • jonesMUFCforever
    • By jonesMUFCforever 5th Mar 18, 11:25 PM
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    I would be very careful before tampering with the tampered ATM.
    If one of the gang saw you you probably would be eating hospital food now!
    What goes around - comes around
    give lots and you will always receive lots
    • Deneb
    • By Deneb 6th Mar 18, 9:39 AM
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    I've never heard of any such reward being offered. I would be astonished, and disappointed, if the police did it, but there's no harm in asking HSBC, just be prepared for the answer to be No.
    Originally posted by agrinnall
    The police won't do it. I'd be astonished if a bank did either. Cue an army of people fitting their own (not necessarily viable) devices and "finding" them once word got around!
    • Heng Leng
    • By Heng Leng 6th Mar 18, 10:09 PM
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    I would be very careful before tampering with the tampered ATM.
    If one of the gang saw you you probably would be eating hospital food now!
    Originally posted by jonesMUFCforever
    They'll just move on to their next target if they know/suspect they've been compromised.
    • SnowTiger
    • By SnowTiger 7th Mar 18, 12:53 AM
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    https://www.birminghammail.co.uk/news/midlands-news/reward-up-25000-catch-people-12821243:

    You could be paid thousands of pounds - if you can offer information relating to cashpoint crime.

    To help combat the rising criminal activity around cash machines LINK, the UK’s cash machine network, is putting up rewards of up to £25,000 for information relating to cash machine crime.

    And the network says even information that may seem insignificant could “prove invaluable in convicting someone involved in cash machine crime”.

    Working with Crimestoppers the reward scheme aims to support the police in their fight against crime and help inform the public about how they can protect themselves.

    LINK is offering the rewards for relevant information and is urging people to call Crimestoppers on 0800 555 111 with any information relating to such incidents.
    • Gary_Dexter
    • By Gary_Dexter 7th Mar 18, 9:10 AM
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    Why do you feel you should be rewarded?
    • robatwork
    • By robatwork 7th Mar 18, 11:34 AM
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    Send HSBC that picture on your MSE profile with a note "It's in your interest to provide me with a reward". Should produce results.
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