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    • dustydigger
    • By dustydigger 21st Jan 18, 5:47 PM
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    Dusty's Frugal Fortnights
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    • 21st Jan 18, 5:47 PM
    Dusty's Frugal Fortnights 21st Jan 18 at 5:47 PM
    I love MSE,so much wisdom and practical advice for someone seeking to improve not just finances but the quality of life. However it is surely a time eater,and being frugal with my time is certainly a high priority on my agenda! I spend way to much time online these days,and frequenting MSE has added another hour to the total!
    So I thought it wiser for now to have a diary where I can post my thoughts and plans,rather than posting - however much fun it is - on lots of threads.
    I will be 70 end of a,Mr Dusty is 78. We live on the guaranteed minimum income pension,and need to live frugally,because with 4 children,5 granddaughters,a great granddaughter with a great grandson due in March,plus various partners making a grand total of 14 people to buy for at Xmas and birthdays I definitely need to keep control of my finances. Plus of course saving for household needs,and all the normal expenses of running a home.
    For years there was always at least one child in dire financial straits,but things thankfully have stabilized,they have jobs and are settled,and at last I can get my finances firmly under control.I have one more arg*s payment and then I am totally debt free
    I have my bills on direct debit,and this month have set up several bank accounts for different purpose,and am starting this new year with eagerness for once (more later on various woes).Mr Dusty saves for himself,but he has family in Africa where life is extremely hard and he has constant drains on his finances.All the bills and running the house come out of my part of our income,and we arrange our affairs on a fortnightly basis. I hope keeping track of all my affairs in a mindful manner will lead to a feeling of financial security and stability - and its quite fun too challenging myself to live in a frugal way. A new fortnight starts tomorrow
    I also hope to add posts about decluttering and organizing the home,about my Slimming World continuing challenges,recycling,and also about the Sealed Pot challenge,surveys,hobbies etc,and anything really that comes into my head!
    Looking forward to improving many parts of my life!
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    • dustydigger
    • By dustydigger 1st Sep 18, 12:30 PM
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    Off now to continue making lunch. Making roasties for Mr D as usual,but made less so as not to be tempted.Mr D is raving about the steak I casseroled,it really was very nice,very tender. Its actually a small roasting joint from Tesc*,but Mr D prefers casseroled meat,so I did it that way. 6 hours at a very low temp and it is so so tender ,melts in the mouth.. Even I enjoyed it,and I am a reluctant meat eater at the best of times £6 has made 3 meals,which is very reasonable in our house! We spend an absolute fortune on food,probably £25-£30 a week on fruit and veg alone.And Mr D only eats fresh salmon,steak and lamb,which are also not cheap. I add to the mayhem with loads of frozen veg,and also tinned chickpeas,butter beans peas etc. I should add it up but I'm scared to see the result

    I have put on a big pot of veggies for me,and will have it with steak,no roasties
    Unfortunately I have the grandkids today and promised them pancakes and no way can I avoid having some.Not just the pancakes,but all that butter and sugar Good job they are back to school next week,much less temptation to eat sweets and biscuits icecream etc,they will disappear from the cupboard for a while,till half term.

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    • dustydigger
    • By dustydigger 3rd Sep 18, 11:36 AM
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    Mr D has gone off to get our fortnight's ''pay''.I have been checking the finances for August and they were OK in the main. I did putsomething in most accounts,and continued to put money on the shop cards for Xmas. Reached £20 at Icel*nd,so got £1 bonus,which is 5%,wish the banks could match that!Plus after some hassle I got my £5 bonus for spending £10 each of 3 shops. Mr D is spending that this morning on chicken wings and tikka masala I need to put on about another £15 so that I qualify for cashback on TCB and free delivery for a Xmas online.
    Didnt do quite so well with Tesc*,as it turns out Mr Dusty had mislaid his card and wasnt getting points. OK,only about 30,points,but it all helps.And I havent been doing any top up shopping,where I normally put a pound or two on the card.Todays points should put me over the £25 saved level,so I'll get a £1.50 bonus. Thats an excellent 6% interest level

    I want to put about another £30 on there to cover my Xmas drinks bill. Much reduced this year. told the kids they will all get their bottle of vodka or whatever as part of their Xmas present,but anything more (and boy can they drink more!) they must bring their own!)
    Oh dear I am becoming a Mrs Scrooge
    here's the state of the various savings accountsend of July/end of August
    USAfund - £130/£180
    Xmas fund - £475/£475
    mixed bag - £200/220
    emergency fund£400/£400
    house and home - £396/£426
    total savings - £1601/£1701


    so £100 in total,very pleased with that ,though I certainly am noticing a squeeze on my cash budget.But it has been school holidays,plus a few extra bills (sharing buying the new lawnmower £35 ouch.)But I did manage to pay it without touching the House and Home fund at the credit union. Once the money goes in I hate taking it out again .
    Think I will have to soon. My fridge is behaving badly. Loud bangs,a couple of times just stopped working,and lately going really cold,socans of pop are semi frozen. Then it goes back to normal again for a while. darn thing is just 3 years old. Out of warranty now ,of course,always is,dont you know
    Lets hope September is a little easier. Doubt it,lots of birthdays coming up,plus accelerating Xmas savings

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    • dustydigger
    • By dustydigger 3rd Sep 18, 2:34 PM
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    Dusty's Frugal Fortnight Sep 3rd-Sep 16th
    income: from Mr D £291 my pension £71,c/f from last month £25
    total £387
    outgoings:
    gas+electric - £91
    phone and broadband - £30
    water rates - £36
    Asd@ online shop - £63
    birthday fund - £20

    hair - £6
    HBB (home budget box) - £141
    total - £387

    no surplus to savings.
    Was glad I put aside £25 last time knowing things are tight just now.
    No passport fund savings either,only need a tenner more so hopefully next fortnight,the easier fortnight I can finish that. the money will then go to Xmas savings.

    Asd@ shop was more than I had hoped for. Needed detergent,washing up liquid,aluminium foil,kitchen towels plus cola. Usually I get a big pack of cans for Mr D,and that lasts a month.But summer holidays,so family and grandkids polished them off in no time.£18 on these few itemsGot to start looking at the food budget. Even Mr D has noticed the way prices are going up,and he's usually oblivious!
    Right I've washed up,found Mr Ds football teams,posted my budget,and am now off to the library. A book has gone missing and I have searched the house for weeks.I definitely remember it down on the floor beside my chair,when visitors came,and that was that,never surfaced since. Maybe the great granddaughternow 21 months old put it in the bin? Wouldnot be surprised. The Imp had a mania for decimating my spoons when she was little.

    Hmm,we have the Angel and the Imp ,looks like I need a name for the latest!
    The library have agreed to let me replace the copy of N K Jemisin's The Obelisk Gate. I got one from Amazon for a couple of quid less than the RRP,in brand new condition,and fortunately had an Amazon voucher from surveys to pay for it.Off to the library to hand it over. Must be strong and not look at the shelves,I have so many books still to read this year,I dont need even more added to the TBR pile

    Have moved all library books to a upper shelf in the cupboard under the stairs till further notice!

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    • dustydigger
    • By dustydigger 5th Sep 18, 8:47 AM
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    Started culling my books. from the 80s and 90s,old favourites in paperback which have gone brown with age,and the gum is dry and brittle. Managed to force myself to pick out 3 for recycling,3 for the charity shop and 3 to check for Ziffit. I need to collect £10 worth,I think I am on £8 at the moment,but since they only give you about 13p a book,I will need quite a few books to get my tenner!
    Mostly I give my books to the dog charity,Stray Aid,its the only charity shop around here that is really old style charity,will take old books even if a bit tatty,as they send off old books for paper recycling.The others only want books like new to sell for £1 or more.
    I intend to get rid of some really taty stuff like my very old edition of King Solomon's Mines,Alice in Wonderland etc.I can read them free online,and they are too old and shabby for anyone to buy so some will go in the bin. I need the space

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    • dustydigger
    • By dustydigger 12th Sep 18, 12:25 PM
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    Sorry to be away for a week,not been too well,swollen joints in knees,right hand and even the right elbow and shoulder.Typing is literally a pain!
    Finally got a copy of the court case ruling,and Mr D wants me to go to the library and print off a copy. He is determined to make an appeal. Despite saying he owns the land,and presumably the house,because the woman was a family friend who cared for his mother for 15 years plus was an agent for decades looking after the properties, she has a so called ''moral right'' to stay in any of the properties she was overseeing.The court seems to have completely ignored the fact that we made a written agreement with her in 2012 to move to a property nearby. She later reneged. We then built her another little house on another piece of land,but she refused that saying it was too small,no land to grow food.She claims to have spent money on repairs etc,but this was from rent from tenants in the hoses,so its Mr Ds money that paid for the repairs! Mr D intends to appeal,but I am worried that it distinctly states in 3 separate places she has rights over all three places.If she is, on appeal, evicted from the disputed houseshe could probably make a case for moving back into the property she lived in before,which has been extensively repaired and decorated in the six years since she moved out.The money we get in rent is a big help in paying for the lawyer and phone calls Mr Dusty is forever making. I worry that appealing will just make matters worse,she will still have ''rights'' in the property she is squatting in,and where she keeps cattle and grows food,but could move into the nicer house.
    But Mr D is determined,I have had 3 days of him constantly raving. He is so annoyed that they found her not guilty of trespass and illegal tenancy,so we get no damages,and the whole mess must have cost many thousands of pounds. Each side has been told to pay their own costs,that is the only glimmer of light,that he doesnt have to pay her costs,but is all a mess.
    He is now obsessing about we must start using the land at once now it is legally stated to be ours,and wants his daughters to go and start growing food. They are terrified of the woman who once claimed they had come to kill her,and the police arrested them. It was awful,and we had a hard time to locate our lawyer to get them released.Mr D is going on about paying the lawyer yet more money to write to the local chiefs and the police proving his entitlement to using the land,but the girls are understandably wary of going there,and who can blame them.If I say anything in their favour I am classed as a traitor,or more damning in his eyes,acting like a typical foolish woman
    Damn,thats the first time I've laughed in a week I think. My health issues alone are more than enough for me to think about,all the court case hassle is just about the last straw.
    Struggling a bit financially this fortnight. Despite a big Asd@ online shop last weekI have spent a lot on top up shopping. Couldnt believe it when I spent £23 at Aldi alone yesterday! I had to pull out £25 for my hair,and money for the birthdays coming up ,4 in 10 days. I hate September.
    I have been waiting to hear from my insurers for house contents. Thought it was due for renewal this month,no word from them,must check up on the policy,I dont want them sneakily putting up the premium without telling me!

    Been too poorly - and too upset - to check out surveys much. I spent a whole hour the other day being closed out on at least a dozen surveys,and finally got one for 40p!
    family history group today,havent been for several weeks,and after spending a lot of hours researching after that visit to Newcastle,I havent even unzipped my bag in almost 2 weeks.just too distracted to focus.
    I do intend to sort out some coins for the credit unionI think I may be able to put in £40. My savings for Sealed Pot and coins end at the end of October. That was the main reason I came on MSE,to save for Xmas and get my finances in order. Seem to have done very well,too bad so many other parts of my plans turned to manure!
    Off now to sort dinner,(roasties,carrots and beef casserole),then I will wash up,mop kitchen floor,hoover the downstairs and sort my family history stuff out for the 3pm class.Afterwards I need to go down the hill to Tesc* for potatoes and butter. Probably end up buying more stuff,but will try to restrain myself good to feelwell enough to go out after a week stuck indoors.

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    • mark88man
    • By mark88man 12th Sep 18, 9:54 PM
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    Chin up Dusty - I think Mr Dusty is being a bit foolish - its tough to lose, but the only people benefitting from carrying on are the lawyers. But I don't know the half of it so no more, and no need to reply.
    Things happen for a reason. Often the reason is we are stupid & make bad decisions.
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    • dustydigger
    • By dustydigger 14th Sep 18, 12:27 PM
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    Hurricane Florence is sweeping in on the US east coast.Despite numerous warnings people refused to leave,and already in one place 150 people are begging for rescue,expecting people to risk their lives to come and get them out. One family had moved right up into the attic with only a tiny window and the rescuers managed to save them,but now conditioners are too bad for first responders to go out without risking their own lives.
    I'm glad my stepson and the kids are well inland,and up in the blue blue mountains of Virginia,since the coast is braced for bad storms.He phoned to reassure us.Being out of a town area he has his own water supply and even a back up generator in case electricity goes out. But they are fortunately out of the main area under threat from Florence,which is a relief.

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    • lonelyrat
    • By lonelyrat 15th Sep 18, 9:59 PM
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    One good thing in August was that I got back into reading,my long term stressbuster,escaping into the world of a book to get away fom grim real life..
    Originally posted by dustydigger
    I'm exactly the same dusty. Re-discovered how much I love reading, at a time when I've been struggling. There is something about switching off and focusing on other people and other places rather than your own drudge (not that you get to switch off with Mr. Dusty and the courts So sorry that this is still ongoing.... I feel you are bearing so much stress of it all).

    Been away from MSE for a while so had a number of pages to catch up on... Very sorry to hear about your various health woes, also about your scare with Mr. Dusty and the conversation that felt foggy. I for one would definitely try and go to the doctor if you can. I know it may feel demoralising after your last experience but it is something worth discussing with them I think.

    So crazy about Florence... Mother nature is definitely scary. Glad your family are not caught up in it xx
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    • dustydigger
    • By dustydigger 16th Sep 18, 9:50 AM
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    I'm exactly the same dusty. Re-discovered how much I love reading, at a time when I've been struggling. There is something about switching off and focusing on other people and other places rather than your own drudge (not that you get to switch off with Mr. Dusty and the courts So sorry that this is still ongoing.... I feel you are bearing so much stress of it all).

    Been away from MSE for a while so had a number of pages to catch up on... Very sorry to hear about your various health woes, also about your scare with Mr. Dusty and the conversation that felt foggy. I for one would definitely try and go to the doctor if you can. I know it may feel demoralising after your last experience but it is something worth discussing with them I think.

    So crazy about Florence... Mother nature is definitely scary. Glad your family are not caught up in it xx
    Originally posted by lonelyrat
    Lovely to hear from you,Lonelyrat.I know you have had it very rough lately.Apologies for not posting on your threadbut the way I felt lately I would have probably joined you in crying,nd on top of the massive overeating,that would really put the lid on it.
    This week we FINALLY got a copy of the ruling,where the court basically said that she had been almost a family member,had helped the family,had been an agent looking after the land,using her own resources to maintain the property for decades and as a result has at least a moral right to the property,and indeed to all three properties,so she can stay. Mr D is of course furious.he gave her a small property and house which she signed for in the presence of witnesses and the local village chief,and later repudiated,her lawyer claiming she is illiterate so its invalid. Later we actually built her another little house but she refused it on the grounds it wasnt big enough to keep her cattle.None of this appears in the ruling at all for our side of the tale.And it leaves all sorts of things hanging. If she has rights to live in the house,do we still own it. What if we wanted to sell the land?The house is hers,but does she have the right to keep her cattle - which have ruined the land for farming - there when our girls want to use it for growing food.
    Mr D is determined to take it to the appeals court. He wanted the girls to go and do some planting to establish our rights,but they are terrified. He then told our lawyer to make copies of the ruling for the local chiefs and the police,so they shouldnt get arrested again,but the police said they wouldnt get involvedwouldnt act as protection,because the woman's friends beat up a policeman recently over something else and they dont want it to happen again.Unbelievable.
    But Mr D is doggedly going on. He has asked that the latest chief magistrate clarify just what rights the woman,and us,have Our girls approached the judge on Wednesday,and by Friday Mr D was ranting at the girls as to why he hadnt heard of any progress.It could take weeks or months knowing the court system,and for the judge to find time for it among all his other duties,but MR Dusty is blinkered, he expects instant results. I got my head bitten off for trying to intervene,and we seem to spend all the time quarreling. Put on 5lb this week alone,the bingeing is totally out of control.
    No wonder I am retreating into reading so much. 8 books read so far this month,with 6 more in progress.The more books I have on the go the more its a signal of me being distracted,unable to focus on a few reads,just restlessly picking up different books. But at least I am getting caught up on my various challenges.15 books left to read for my science fiction challenge of 80 books.112/144 read from my 12x12 on LibraryThing. 2 books left (both in progress) for my A-Z Authors challenge there.Only an author for ''O'' and ''U'' left. So something is going right.
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    • By beanielou 16th Sep 18, 1:56 PM
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    Just all sounds dire.
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    • dustydigger
    • By dustydigger 16th Sep 18, 5:02 PM
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    Sorting out the finances for the next fortnight. This fortnight's purse emptying produced £4.89,and has been put in the pot.Besides I hope to have at least £10 for the credit union this week,and have lots of copper to be bagged and counted for addition soon,a few pounds a week,as the girl at the credit union isnt all that keen counting all the pennies,or 5 pences,so I limit them to £2 usually.Hoping to reach the £300 mark there.Its 6 weeks to the end of the Sealed Pot and £2 coin saver challenges.and I will probably have saved over £450 altogether in coins over the year,without even noticing!Will definitely continue saving coins,but probably not as a formal challenge.
    Apart from that and my reading its been a poor fortnight. Less than a pound made on surveys. No progress on family history. Rotten health,both physical and mental. Mr Dusty raving all the time.And as for exercise,apart from a couple of shopping trips I havent been out for weeks and weeks.and the diet has nosedived to where I've put on a stone in a few weeks.Keep saying I must pull myself together,then I dont. Depresses me even to just read a few of the early posts on this diary,I was so happy,confident in my weight loss, in better health than in many years,even putting the diabetes into remission.Look at me now.
    Enough of this doom and gloomI am off now to watch some mindless TV,as I normally do on a Sunday Actually,I mostly use the on demand channels,I always find something intriguing to watch.Was annoyed when Channel 4 On Demand channel closed down,and can only be watched online.I had dozens of items taped,but dont enjoy watching films etc on the laptop,picture is too small and the sound is too tinny. ITV Hub makes you check in every time with name and other details,tapping in letter by letter on the screen,it takes ages. None of the other channels have such a poor check in method,I've given up going there.
    Thank goodness for BBC,so much varied stuff ,I always find something to watch.
    Off now to develop my square eyes
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    • By dustydigger 17th Sep 18, 4:43 PM
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    Dusty's Frugal Fortnight : 17th Sep - 30th Sep
    income : £291 from Mr Dusty,£71 my pension,total £362

    outlay:
    P.O. savings (mixed bag) - £20
    life insurance - £20
    birthday fund - £20
    passport fund - £10

    asd* food shop - £53
    xmas shop cards - £20

    hair - £5
    personal allowance - £20
    HBB (home budget box - cash) - £141


    total outlay - £309
    surplus - £53
    That looks good,but since I added saving for the USA trip I have to carry forward some cash from the easier fortnight to balance the next fortnight,which has big bills.So the surplus is £30. Since my ''float'',my CA balance, has dipped below the safety cushion of £200,down to £173,that surplus will bring it back to the £200 I feel comfortable with.

    So thats the finances sorted for the next 2 weeks,now to sort all the big bills and Xmas finances!
    Another post though,later. I was trying to do this when Mr Dusty came in,wanting tea and company,asking me to look up things online,and put maize he had brought in the oven to roast.Finally did all the details of this budget and the bills and xmas details in a post - and pressed the wrong button while distracted by Mr D and lost the whole post!
    The passport fund is now complete,and the birthday fund will go back to £10 a month from next fortnight,so that will be £20 a month less burden. It will go towards xmas bonus card savings then into the USA trip fund - which stands at a rather measly £180/£1000 at the moment so every little helps!
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    • GlendaSugarbean
    • By GlendaSugarbean 17th Sep 18, 7:18 PM
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    I'm sorry you're having a tough time of it at the moment. What is the block with the family history? I have access to Ancestry at work sonof you need any checking at lunchtime let me know!
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    • By dustydigger 17th Sep 18, 10:32 PM
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    Hi Glenda,nice to see you.How kind of you to offer help! Actually I have Ancestry,Family Search at homeas well as Find My Past and Parish Registers and loads of local records at my family history group. Unfortunately once you get a long way back,back into the 1700s,info is sparse. I have an ancestor Thomas,born somewhere around1800-1805.,from 1841 census details.
    Normally the situation is that you check the marriage info,and the father is given,so you get back one more generation.Then you search for the christening record In this case all the marriage record from the church says is ''Thomas Dobey married Ann Taylor''.Full stop. No ages,no fathers given. so though circumstantial evidence and speculation points to a certain person as his father,there is no concrete written evidence,no baptismal record,and presumably his father was dead before the earliest census in 1841,so no help there,though the woman whom I presume is his mother is still alive,but in a different residence,so no concrete link there either. .
    Just one of those things,these oldtimer churchmen keeping records were very inconsiderate towards us genealogists by not putting down enough information!How could they not know that 200 years later we need DETAILS? How unhelpful of them!

    The frustrating thing is that in another of my family lines at a little church about 4 miles away,the local reverend was much more forthcoming. You get something like James Jones,born 24th Aug 1795,2nd son,and 3rd child of John Jones,miner,and his wife Mary,formerly Jackson, was baptized on 24th Sep 1795. Wish my ancestor had moved to that town,I wouldnt have so many headaches!
    Once again,Glenda,many thanks for showing an interest.Have you done much family research?
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    • By GlendaSugarbean 18th Sep 18, 8:02 AM
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    My grandfather did a lot of his family tree (mostly prison wardens from what I can remember!) and DH got very interested in his as a teenager (old Scottish family so with a bit of creative family history his family tree goes back to Odin )

    Most of my family history research has been on behalf of others as an archivist, there are a lot of dead ends I find. I'd love to find out more about my grandmother's family, but Irish records are much more patchy even than uncooperative church records!

    It is fascinating, even if the results can be a bit uncomfortable. DH turns out to have some unapologetic slave-owning ancestors who had second illegitimate families on their plantations while being terribly respectable at home.
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    • By dustydigger 19th Sep 18, 9:30 AM
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    My grandfather did a lot of his family tree (mostly prison wardens from what I can remember!) and DH got very interested in his as a teenager (old Scottish family so with a bit of creative family history his family tree goes back to Odin )

    Most of my family history research has been on behalf of others as an archivist, there are a lot of dead ends I find. I'd love to find out more about my grandmother's family, but Irish records are much more patchy even than uncooperative church records
    Originally posted by GlendaSugarbean

    Glenda,you should get together with Uncanny Scot and have a good rant about ancient nordic ancestors,but you go even one better,back to Odin himself
    Uncanny Scot said

    ''As I have a lot of Irish ancestry I have hit many a dead end due to lack of records.
    Also a nuisance is mad Americans messaging you saying that they've traced their family history right back to the Kings of Dalraida and the Kings of Norway and have found that they're apparently related to you... erm Naw, you're not, as NONE of my family went anywhere near America... ''

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    • By dustydigger 19th Sep 18, 10:11 AM
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    Getting to grips with intermittent fasting,and starting to follow a sort of Slimming World SP regime,just protein and speed foods. Already after a few days I feel the benefits,with less cravings,and much less bloating,with a loss on the scales of 3 lbs since Monday. Obviously no fat loss,just water,but that extra half stone weight the last two weeks has made me be panting when walking,more pain climbing the stairs,backache when standing cooking.Right back to what I was in the old days.Got to get back in the frame,I like the little phrase,NO GPS! i.e. No gluten,potatoes or sugar. I know just how badly gluten affects me,when I eat a lot of bread I bloatup and my nose starts running. This week is the first time in a year that I am back to that. I love bread,my all time fave food,but its a problem for me.It sets off cravings,stomach problems,that running nose etc.
    Last year drastically cut down on potatoes and that helped enormously with the weight loss,4 stone no muss no fuss. Gradually I have been making extra potatoes when I cook for Mr Dusty,and have been eating far too many. So I have now cut down the number I cook,so that should help.As for the sugar I have been been eating some sweets during the stressful times lately,but on the whole I try to keep away from sugar because of the risk of returning diabetes. I need to get back to healthy eating,at least that helps even when I am very stressed. So NO GPS
    Seeing my miserable status of weight loss on my signature,from 4 stone down to 2st 4lbs,was so depressing. I am deleting that for the moment,replacing it with a new mini target. I know that there is a level below which I stop panting when walking,dont feel tired when doing chores,and feel OK.Thats about a stone below where I am now,and one and ahalf stone below my best weight loss.I am going to set mini targets of 7 lbs at a time,baby steps. The thyroid mess doesnt help either.
    So,first target of half a stone,3lbs gone already,so that looks encouraging!Wish me luck.

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    Whew,its really blowing a gale out there,we've had some real downpours today.Lovely sunshine now,which will probably change again in five minutes.
    Hectic morning cooking and cleaning,and tried for 45minutes to get a survey on 3 different sites,but didnt succeed.

    After dinner did masses of washing up (I detest washing up!)bagged up £10 worth of copper for the credit union.and looked over some family history stuff.packed my bag ready to go to the fam. his. group.
    Now all ready to go in 10 mins. Want to do a bit reading,but I know me,I'll read for a while and look up and I'm 20 mins late for the group.So I'm spending a few minutes catching up on posts on MSE,and doing a few ''thanks'' clicks.
    Oldest granddaughter's 28th birthday today. Cant be right,I'm only 26 - and a bit - myself One down,and 3 more to go before the end of this month,then only 3 more birthdays the rest of the year
    Right,off to the group now,carrying the big bag of papers,10 lbs of copper,and my small lemon juice bottle for the tea break in the group.
    At least the heavy weight will stop me blowing away down the hill!

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