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Returning shoes after wearing them - painful
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marliepanda wrote: »They are in no way described as a workout show, sorry, just looking at them you can see theyre not built for use in a gym....
Maximum impact protection does not mean 'high impact protection' (as you called it) it just means that shoe offers maximum protection against general use. It doesnt state anything that implies high impact protection.
This literally just means theyre comfortable, move with your feet and are suitable for different surfaces (grass, road, indoors). NONE of that suggest gym...
I'm sorry but it doesn't state anywhere maximum protection against "general use" so why you think that's right meaning?
it didn't state gym but it didn't state grass, road, indoors
why do you think it's the latter when none of the words have been suggested?
The whole purpose of trainers is to be able to be used in other conditions other than normal walking. The least I'd expect from trainers is to be able to use them at the gym.0 -
I'm sorry but it doesn't state anywhere maximum protection against "general use" so why you think that's right meaning?
it didn't state gym but it didn't state grass, road, indoors
why do you think it's the latter when none of the words have been suggested?
The whole purpose of trainers is to be able to be used in other conditions other than normal walking. The least I'd expect from trainers is to be able to use them at the gym.
Trainers are fashion items nowadays, they are not all meant to be worn in the gym. These ones are not. They are from the 'lifestyle' section of the Nike website, not the other options of
Lifestyle
Running
Gym & Training
Tennis
Golf
Football
Basketball
Skateboarding
Gym and training is for, gym and training - lifestyle just means fashion...0 -
OP, during what activities do you find them uncomfortable, general use or when running on a treadmill?0
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The whole purpose of trainers is to be able to be used in other conditions other than normal walking. The least I'd expect from trainers is to be able to use them at the gym.
I think marliepanda is right. I understand the term "trainers" to refer to lifestyle or "fashion" shoes. Many of these so-called trainers are based on retro or classic designs from 30 or 40 years ago. (When did Michael Jordan retire?). They're generally not fit for any real "training" purpose (although as it's a Jordan it may be fit for basketball, but that's all).
My feet don't fit Nike lasts particularly well so I don't buy them (and I run, play tennis and go to the gym). They do make great running, tennis and gym shoes, but we have a Nike outlet near us, and it's quite clear that a lot of their models are lifestyle shoes for casual or leisure or street wear, or for making a fashion statement.
EDIT: My wife and I also play golf. She wears Nikes and thinks they are the most fantastic shoes ever!0 -
I've just realised - did you buy them from JD Sports?
I'm actually interested in retro/classic trainers so I often wander into our local branch and see what they have. I might buy a pair for "lifestyle" purposes, but wouldn't dream of buying anything from there for genuine fitness activity. Over the years I've found an on-line shop that sells exactly what I need and I've bought solely from them for 10 years. I know the brand and models I want, and I know exactly which of their sizes fits me.
On the upside (and I'm no expert in this area, but I know other posters here are) I wonder if you have a case that these particular shoes are not as described or are misrepresented on the website? I don't know.0 -
Cast shadows over your competition with these men's Eclipse trainers from Jordan. Stripping things down and bringing a unique minimalist look, a lightweight textile upper brings your foot breathable comfort. Sat on a dual midsole/outsole that sheds uneccesary weight and delivers lightweight cushioning, an encapsulated Air-Sole offers impact protection for a soft underfoot feel. A herringbone traction pattern to the outsole provides smooth multidirectional movement, perfect for weaving through opponents and leaving them for dust on the courts. Even the usual Jordan branding is kept to a minimum, with a large Jumpman silhouette to the back heel, leaving a stamp of style approval that's sure to leave people admiring as you fly by.
JDsports website
Mentions Basketball (obviously with them being 'Jordans') but nothing that would suggest they are anything other than a sports fashion shoe.0 -
@marliepanda
I don't know where you got that description from but the one I had was from the profile of the shoes I bought
https://www.jdsports.co.uk/product/black-jordan-eclipse/281751/
Hence mentioned "impact protection".
I see where you're coming from in terms of what trainers mean but then again this doesn't fit the definition of trainers
https://www.collinsdictionary.com/dictionary/english/trainers
http://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/trainer
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sneakers
The whole idea behind trainers is that initially they were just sport shoes but companies tried to make sport shoes more attractive so that they can be used as casual wear and not to make them suitable for casual wear by eliminating the sporty features.
The are consumer protection laws but in all honesty it feels like they aren't doing anything because they allow companies like JD sports to get away by misleading.
Distance selling it's effectively a stupid law at the end of the day if the look and feel cannot be tested.
In this instance the argument is that the trainers I bought haven't been explicitly described as gym trainers.
Even if we take an example of a person buying explicitly gym shoes, the only way for him/her to test their compatibility would be to test them in the environment they have been purchased for. However, if they do test them and find them unsuitable for gym(despite those items being described suitable for that purpose) the consumer wouldn't be able to apply distance selling law because they worn those shoes.
@neilmcl I used them on the treadmill so there's running involved but for gym as well, the thing is that running creates a situation where after a bit they start to become uncomfortable because of the top line rubbing, that makes the rubbed side of the skin sensitive and therefore even walking would be uncomfortable.
However I haven't walked long enough to see how long it takes before they start to become uncomfortable.
@maxman being it jordan they might be fit for basketball. if we were to make a fair comparison, don't you think shoes that are comfortable for basketball should/must be comfortable for gym/treadmill ?
I mean, after all in basketball the amount of jumping/running/sharp movements makes it even more extreme than treadmill running
I think, like some people said here, shoes are a gamble. Even if you go at the store and test them, it doesn't guarantee they'll be fit for purpose, of course you can go to those stores that have a treadmill but then there are other things to consider whether you like that style combined with the feel, willing to pay the price and most importantly you are restricted to the physical market (as online will be even riskier)0 -
Well that's kind of the issue then isn't it. They are not in anyway described as running shoes and if you look at the description on the Nike website they are described as a Mid top shoe and therefore wouldn't be at all suitable for running as there isn't enough clearance for your ankle hence the issue you are experience.@neilmcl I used them on the treadmill so there's running involved but for gym as well, the thing is that running creates a situation where after a bit they start to become uncomfortable because of the top line rubbing, that makes the rubbed side of the skin sensitive and therefore even walking would be uncomfortable.
Face it, you bought a fashion shoe that you thought you would look "cool" in down the gym and it's turned out to be a case of style over substance.0 -
I know what you mean, but I'm not sure I would expect a shoe designed for basketball (and we are only assuming this one is because it's part of the Jordan range) to be suitable for any other activity. I think if you want a multi-use sports shoe you need some type of cross-trainer. But a lot of them are rubbish and good ones tend to be expensive.
I agree that buying any type of shoe off the internet is a bit of a gamble. That's one reason why I always used to buy sports (and other shoes) from actual physical shops. Once I'd found a brand and model of running shoe I really liked, I started buying them online. New versions of the model come out every year but, apart from a few cosmetic details, it's the same shoe. The place I use is StartFitness (in Newcastle I think). They aren't the cheapest on-line but I've found them reliable.
The shoe may be mis-described on the website, but I don't feel qualified to say. It's still a shoe. Maybe you bought the wrong size?
Also, most(?) outdoor shops (in my experience) actually encourage you to wear hill-walking boots around the house for a few days to make sure they fit. But you can only wear them around the house not outside. Was it obvious you'd worn them in the gym?0 -
if you look at the description on the Nike website they are described as a Mid top shoe and therefore wouldn't be at all suitable for running as there isn't enough clearance for your ankle hence the issue you are experience.
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Yeah - probably not good for running.
Funnily enough, because I've had torn ligaments in both ankles, I always used to prefer "hi-top" shoes for tennis, squash and cross-training. Nike did great ones years ago (the only Nike shoes I liked) but nobody seems to make anything comparable these days, And although I did a lot of running in them playing tennis and squash, I certainly wouldn't "go running" in them.0
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