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    leonie
    Help about fresh eggs and the codes please.
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    • 12th May 05, 11:20 AM
    Help about fresh eggs and the codes please. 12th May 05 at 11:20 AM
    Hi everyone

    Following on from a recent thread about eggs. I decided never to eat any but free range (hopefully will have my own hens soon!)

    So I just popped off to my local butchers and bought a dozen eggs. I asked if they were free range and he said yes. I paid 1.30 a dozen.

    I've just got home and found the code on them is 3 which is caged. Now can someone tell me exactly what that is, is it battery hens??

    I will be furious if it is and im going straight back to the shop!!

    Please set me straight on this one

    Leonie
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    • By Curry Queen 12th May 05, 11:51 AM
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    • 12th May 05, 11:51 AM
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    • 12th May 05, 11:51 AM
    There is a post that has the codes listed somewhere, I'll see if I can find it, but yes code 3 does mean battery hens. I'd be straight back to the shop too if that were me


    The post I referred to is here.
    Last edited by Curry_Queen; 12-05-2005 at 11:57 AM.
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  • leonie
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    • 12th May 05, 11:55 AM
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    • 12th May 05, 11:55 AM
    Thank you Curry_Queen, i've been sat here waiting for a reply with my blood boiling!!! What makes it worse is after I asked if there were free range, the next lady bought a dozen and it was probably because I asked!!!

    Right now I know for sure, im off back to the shop.
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    • By Curry Queen 12th May 05, 11:59 AM
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    • 12th May 05, 11:59 AM
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    • 12th May 05, 11:59 AM
    Good luck!

    I recently had the same problem with our local butcher who usually supplies local free range eggs but the last lot I bought from him were coded 3 too and I sent them straight back, much to DS's embarrassment
    "An Ye Harm None, Do What Ye Will"
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  • Tracey Smith
    • #5
    • 12th May 05, 12:04 PM
    Here are the codes
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    • 12th May 05, 12:04 PM
    Hi there Leonie,

    Here are the codes from the other thread about 'Value Eggs'.

    0 = organic

    1 = free range

    2 = barn

    3 = caged

    UK = origin

    5 numbers = reference number/location of batch

    Go give them a rocket my friend, that's outrageous!

    Incidentally, when you get a mo, visit Big Barn, put your post code in and you will find STACKS of great local producers in your area, for good eggs, organic box deliveries, local meat etc.

    All the best to you,
    I do love a good bargain!
  • leonie
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    • 12th May 05, 1:27 PM
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    • 12th May 05, 1:27 PM
    Right im back!

    Gosh I was shaking with anger, I was hoping the shop was full but only me. Anyway I told him that he sold me the eggs, saying they were free range and he confirmed they were. I replied that they werent as the 3 on the egg means they are battery. He gave me a look and said I was getting confused with sizing.......... my blood boiled!!!

    So I said, well i've just rang up the agricultural place and they confirmed they are battery eggs so if you give me your telephone number I can ask them to give you a ring and help you with the codes!!!!!

    Anyway then his tone changed and he went on about he was getting confused and he 'thought' they were free range. He gave me my money back and I went on for another few minutes about it being a terrible thing that they were being sold as free range and that whilst I knew, what about the other poor shoppers.

    I'm very sad now as I trusted him. I've been buying my meat from there as I assumed that i'd be getting a better, more humanly killed piece of meat, but how can I trust him again. I'll never go in that shop again and im going to tell my neighbours too

    Sorry, rant over. Im just appalled that this is allowed to happen.

    Oops edited to say, Tracey thankyou for the link. Im in ashby de la zouch but it seems theres no where available to buy eggs. Just a farmers market but thats not until the end of the month. I shall go there. Thankyou
    Last edited by leonie; 12-05-2005 at 1:29 PM.
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    • 12th May 05, 1:39 PM
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    • 12th May 05, 1:39 PM
    Leonie, I'm really impressed! You've made my day by having the guts to go back and put them right.

    It's a shame you're having to struggle to find really good, humanely produced eggs, I really did think we'd moved on in this country to the extent where everyone would have that choice available to them, but it seems not,

    take care, and though your blood was boiling, I hope you allow yourself a smile later at the fact that you went back!
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    • By spendaholic 12th May 05, 1:52 PM
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    • 12th May 05, 1:52 PM
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    • 12th May 05, 1:52 PM
    We live in the sticks and there's a farm shop a few miles away, based within a home farm. There's loads of room and the land sprawls out for miles. They advertise fresh eggs so we stopped off to buy half a dozen. Walking through the expansive farmyard we noticed pig sties to the left and enclosed barns to the right, and from within the barns we could hear flapping. When we got to the shop I asked if the eggs were free range and she said they couldn't have free range eggs because there wasn't the room and people are always in and out.

    There was loads of bloomin' room! And how hard can it be to ask visitors to beware of the free roaming chickens?!

    Anyway, we thanked her and went to the supermarket and got Yorkshire Farmhouse eggs, which are local and free range. These eggs were 99p in Morrisons, but when I went to Tesco a few days later they were 1.19, for the same size. Had I not been able to get Tesco own free range eggs that time for 84p I might have insisted they price match. As it was, I mentioned it to customer services anyway, so hopefully they'll come down by our next visit.

    Good for you, though, Leonie, and for holding your ground when he suggested you might be confusing the code with the size. He may have genuinely believed they were free range, but for a butcher to get away with that? Nah.
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    • By apprentice tycoon 12th May 05, 2:23 PM
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    • 12th May 05, 2:23 PM
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    • 12th May 05, 2:23 PM
    Well done Leonie - is it a Trading Standards issue, or DOES HE KNOW WHERE YOU LIVE?
  • leonie
    Well the going back to the shop was never in question. I always try to stand up for myself and it was a horrible thing to mislead people like that!

    I have calmed down now but was so angry earlier that I was wondering about ringing trading standards. Yes he doesn know me as he is your usual butcher type and talks to everyone who goes in. I still feel the same though, I wont set foot in that shop again because if he is able to lie so convincing, what boundries does he work to? Would he be happy selling bad meat????

    I am trying to rethink my lifestyle at the moment. I've started growing my own veggies and I try to buy organic where possible. I've also stopped buying cleaning products... vinegar is my friend! My daughter had cancer last year and its made me think more about the environment and the rubbish I put in my body. I am looking into getting a couple of hens and then using the eggs more in cooking and using less meat. Its a long journey but my habits are changing.

    I still think I was right earlier by going back to the shop. How can we change for the better when idiots give us false information
    • apprentice tycoon
    • By apprentice tycoon 12th May 05, 2:55 PM
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    I think that point you made about your daughter's health is very valid, it's heightened your awareness of your surroundings and the environment. I'd love some chickens but the garden isn't really suitable.
    If it were me I would have done as you did and been happy that I'd made my point, if it was a town centre butcher I think that I would have reported him, it's harder with a local one like yours. Out of interest, it might be worth asking a friend to go in to the shop in a few days time to see if the same happens again....
  • Tracey Smith
    Top Leonie
    I just wanted to add a big well done for going back and confronting him. It was diabolical behaviour and you are clearly doing the right thing by,

    VOTING WITH YOUR FEET!

    As consumers, I honestly believe we can make a difference by standing up and speaking out for what we want.

    Interestingly enough, on the Battery Farm Welfare Trust site that I mentioned in the other thread, there is a great page for Armchair Campaigners, with the names and addresses of the decision makers at the supermarket giants. Well worthy of dropping a note to.

    I do believe there is a place in our society for supermarkets, but a greater need for communities with hearts back in them. Family run businesses selling all our essentials, fruit, veg, meat and fish.

    If we are going to have any kind say in what, when and how we are served, we need to speak up, just like you Leonie! Well done my friend.

    Support your small local producers in any way you can and don't feel guilty that you are not going the whole hog! Take it gently, experience the difference a bit at a time and move on to the next level when you are ready.

    ....and don't forget to tell your friends who will tell their friends and they'll tell their friends.....
    I do love a good bargain!
    • squeaky
    • By squeaky 12th May 05, 8:18 PM
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    It used to be said that one unhappy customer would tell ten others. Some companies took this on board and realised that by making the complainant happy they'd get ten good referrals.

    In the days now of the innerweb where we might each tell hundreds or even thousands of others you'd think that all these companies would be trying even harder to put things right.

    Doesn't seem like it though does it?
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  • Tracey Smith
    Perhaps you are right - but the problem Is.....
    ......you always get one bad apple!

    That seems to tip the balance out of whack.

    It made me think about the BBC's Watchdog, Name and Shame Campaign.

    While I think it's a great idea to name companies who are just pirates, maybe there should be a thread here for,

    Outstanding Service Received

    You could just go on there and write:

    Who: (name of the company)

    Where: (town/county)

    What: (do they do/sell)

    Why: (do you think they are outstanding)

    A far more positive approach to yelling about great service or products, received at a great price!

    Also, if people wanted to hop on there and find an organic butcher, they could find them on a search (control + F).

    Just a thought....
    I do love a good bargain!
    • squeaky
    • By squeaky 13th May 05, 7:18 AM
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    There is one.

    One for poor service and warnings and vents, and one for the good guys called five star service, I think.

    They are both to be found on the same board. Just Click Here.
    Last edited by squeaky; 13-05-2005 at 7:22 AM.
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  • leonie
    But heres where the problems can start. Its ok saying use local butchers etc in favour of huge supermarkets but this butchers is the local butchers. Two jolly plump men who know the names of all the local folk. And whilst it is expensive, its where you go to get your sausage and bacon for a weekend fry up because it must be good quality as its from the local caring butcher!

    Now i've totally lost faith in him for lying like he did. He obviously has no scruples so I shudder to think what else he may be doing!

    I've alerted my friends on another group about the different codes and their meanings. As I for one wont be buying battery eggs ever again
    • squeaky
    • By squeaky 13th May 05, 7:36 AM
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    squeaky
    He could have been, though he really shouldn't have been, just merely in error. If you know someone who in a few days time could ask the same innocent question you did, and he hasn't corrected his answer...

    ..then that would be the time to have a re-think about him. Still dodgy if he's selling a product he doesn't know properly - but not as bad as an outright liar.

    A couple of posts up from here in #15 is a link to the warning and vents board. You might like to post the egg info and your story into there to reach more people too.
    Last edited by squeaky; 13-05-2005 at 7:39 AM.
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  • Tracey Smith
    H Leonie
    Yes - I do get your point and like I say, there are always the exceptions to the rule.

    While it is an impossible job to change the world, I do believe we can make a difference, one person at a time.

    I would not worry about your local guy, he will come unstuck if he is unethical.

    You need to look at the positive changes you have made now and enjoy the delights of your new found eggies! Spread the word in conversation, but don't get any more upset by it.

    You have done a fantastic thing and are clearly a converted shopper which is commendable.

    By the way, I thoroughly recommend scrambled eggs on toast, with stacks of cracked, black pepper and a mug of tea!
    I do love a good bargain!
  • leonie
    Well I wont need to worry about how the chickens are kept or what they eat anymore............ as im getting my own!!

    The family have spent all weekend building a chicken coop (hubby is very talented and builds wooden greenhouses etc) So hopefully we will have our own eggs in the next couple of weeks!

    MSE what have you done to me......... I only came here looking for a thread about vinegar and its uses!!
  • lellie
    My girlfriend's family have a farm, they have Barn hens, and personally they're treated as well as any free range hens, maybe even better, because there's no foxes in the barn to eat them!
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